[arin-ppml] ARIN-2025-4: Resource Issuance to Natural Persons -- Request for Feedback
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WHY should it be needed to "Form" any sort of business in order to obtain
resources from ARIN? ARIN has a monopoly on these resources in this reason
and it should not be a requirement to form a business entity to obtain
those resources, especially if they are not being used for business. If
ARIN in fact does not want to deal with individuals, it IS time to
establish a policy to do so.
Maybe in the past all internet access involved obtaining address space
from a commercial entity. This is no longer the case, as almost everyone
wants/needs internet access as much as the need for electricity.
The ONLY 100% working multihome way for reliable internet service from 2
or more upstream providers is to obtain address space directly from ARIN.
In theory, one should be able to tie together IPv6 connections from
several providers, and automatically obtain a useable address on each of
these networks. According to the RFC's, Our OS also in theory should
detect when one or more of the providers are no longer able to reach our
destination, and automatically route the traffic over the remaining
connections. However, in actual practice this does not work, especially
with Microsoft Windows and other OS's, requiring BGP and our own address
block to make this failover work.
The explosion of work from home households have expanded this need. If my
family wants to have a reliable multihome internet connection, there
should NOT be a requirement for the household to "form a business" in
order to do so. If the connection is not reliable, every worker in the
family is not able to work remote.
I am giving FLORIDA, USA as an example. If you do business under your own
name there is NO requirement for any business registration and thus there
is no central location like Sunbiz.org where ARIN can verify that
business, nor are such persons doing business under their own name even
ALLOWED to register without forming another entity like a Corporation or
LLC, and that is far from FREE.
If instead you are not actually doing business, but simply want address
space for your household to use in a multi home internet access
enviroment, there is no government requirements AT ALL. NO local business
tax receipt required (Occupational License), nor any business zoning
requirement for your location simply to obtain address space for your own
household use.
YES, there may be an issue for ARIN with the space when the registrant
dies. However, just like when a business "dies" and its networking assets
are obtained by purchase or otherwise, the resources need to be
transferred to the heir who received the assets, or will be recovered if
the estate or the heir fails to continue to pay ARIN the fees. In many
cases, ARIN will be unaware of the death, as the heir will have access to
the payment systems of ARIN as the administrator of the estate, even after
the death of the registrant, and may just continue to pay the fees to ARIN
and the upstream providers to keep the home network operational. Many
people give the right to continue to do business in their name to their
heir in their estate documents and therefore are permitted to continue
those contracts such as with ARIN after the registrant's death.
Why such a bias against individuals having their "own" network that is
independent of any given upstream provider? Forming a Corporation or LLC
can be very costly. Not only are there Hundreds in fees every year to the
state for the right to do business, and also renting/buying a location
where it is legal under the zoning code to conduct business.
There is also a large cost in hiring someone to be your registered agent,
who according to the laws of FLORIDA, USA must be available for legal
service every business day. This cost often exceeds the state
registration costs, as well as amy amount paid to ARIN.
In any case, if one is not actually "doing buiness", but only wants the
ARIN resources to have a reliable domestic internet connection, all of
those other expenses are a total waste of money.
Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.
On Mon, 14 Jul 2025, William Herrin wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 8:31 AM David Conrad via ARIN-PPML
> <arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:
>> I thought the point of this policy was that there are jurisdictions in which
>> obtaining the necessary government organizational paperwork was costly/onerous.
>
> Hi David,
>
> If there are ARIN-region jurisdictions where the necessary paperwork
> for a sole proprietorship is costly or onerous, the draft's author and
> proponents have not yet identified any of them. Unless I missed a post
> somewhere?
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>
>
> --
> William Herrin
> bill at herrin.us
> https://bill.herrin.us/
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