[arin-ppml] Your feedback on Out of Region Waitlist ip space

[Paul E McNary]

I think the only change needed is how staff determine a sole proprietorship. 
If the staff can get their head round how an individual can be a business entity without having to prove by a Secretary of State registration, 
I think that solves the issue. 
A State sales tax license, a redacted federal schedule C filed with a SS number. 
The staff needs to adjust to how different states handle a business of one person instead of the inside the beltway thinking. 
As long as the current wait list remains maybe something may need clarification going forward. 

>From what I have read it is a staff training issue and maybe a waiting list change for the future with current waiting list grandfathered as is. 
John has said it is already a staff decision about how a person is determined to be to be a business. 
It was impossible for me until I formed a one person LLC. But that was in 2010-2012 time period and John has said that 
the staff determination is more liberal now. Correct John? 
It caused me not to be able to get IPV4 in time before exhaustion. 
I am now on the waiting list. We have been been marginally able to get by. 

What am I not seeing? 

Paul McNary 





From: "Scott Leibrand" <scottleibrand at gmail.com> 
To: "Alison DAS WOOD" <Alison.WOOD at das.oregon.gov> 
Cc: "arin-ppml" <arin-ppml at arin.net> 
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2025 5:48:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Your feedback on Out of Region Waitlist ip space 

IMO ARIN handles this well already and no policy updates are needed. They require an in-region nexus (and in-region usage on any needs justification), but don’t subsequently care what you do with the addresses unless you come back for more. 
Scott 



On Jul 14, 2025, at 11:03 AM, WOOD Alison * DAS <Alison.WOOD at das.oregon.gov> wrote: 





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Hello Community!! 


The Policy Experience Report Working Group (PERWG) would like to get the community’s input on a potential issue. Currently, IPv4 space allocated via the 4.1.8 waitlist must meet in-region justification at the time of request. However, the policy isn’t entirely clear on what happens after the initial allocation — specifically, whether additional acquired 4.1.8 space could be used outside of the ARIN service region. 

We’d like to hear your thoughts on the following question: 

Should all IPv4 space allocated from the 4.1.8 waitlist be explicitly restricted to use within the ARIN region, not just the initial allocation but on all subsequent allocations? 
We’re interested in whether such a restriction aligns with the original intent of 4.1.8 and how the community feels this should be handled going forward. 

Looking forward to your input! 
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