[arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2024-7: Addition of Definitions for General and Special Purpose IP Addresses
Pellak, Kaitlyn
kaitjean at amazon.com
Wed Feb 26 19:28:32 EST 2025
Scott,
To clarify, the current draft policy is to propose the addition of a definition for IP addresses that are reserved for specific purposes by ARIN:
Policy Statement:
Add the following definition to Section 2
2.18 Reserved IPv4 and IPv6 Addresses
Addresses that are reserved by ARIN for specific purposes including, but not limited to; maintaining critical infrastructure, facilitating IPv6 deployment, or temporary experimental purposes as approved by ARIN.
Timetable for Implementation: Immediate.
The change to text I included in my request for feedback was an example of how the definition could be put into place, only if the proposed definition were added to the NRPM. We felt that gaining community input on the definition itself would be the first step and if it the definition were to be accepted then a follow-up policy to enact the changes in the NRPM would be submitted.
If you have thoughts about the current language in the proposed definition that would be helpful in determining whether or not we should move forward.
Thanks,
Kaitlyn
Kaitlyn Pellak
Amazon – Technical Business Developer II
kaitjean at amazon.com<mailto:kaitjean at amazon.com>
301.921.5566
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From: Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 26, 2025 at 7:09 PM
To: Kaitlyn Pellak <kaitjean at amazon.com>
Cc: ARIN <info at arin.net>, "arin-ppml at arin.net" <arin-ppml at arin.net>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2024-7: Addition of Definitions for General and Special Purpose IP Addresses
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That would be a very substantial change. It should be proposed separately.
I don't see the point of making changes to definitions that aren't referenced anywhere. If you want to add a new definition in order to more clearly make a substantive policy change, then that definition (and the text referencing it) should be included in the substantive policy proposal. If we decide not to make the substantive change, we don't need to change definitions either.
-Scott
On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 9:22 AM Pellak, Kaitlyn via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>> wrote:
Hello PPML,
I am soliciting any additional feedback the community may have on the below policy. Please note, we received one comment suggesting that rather than using the term "2.18 Reserved IPv4 and IPv6 Addresses" we could instead use the term "Defined Purpose IPv4 and IPv6 Addresses." If anyone in the community feels this is better language (or has a suggestion for different language) please respond accordingly.
If the community are able to agree on language surrounding a definition there would be subsequent policies to update the language in the NRPM to match. The author provided an example of what that may look like as follows:
"Section 4.3.2
Change paragraph 1 text
FROM: “End-user organizations without an IPv4 allocation from ARIN qualify for
an initial allocation of ARIN’s minimum allocation size.”
TO: “End-user organizations without a Reserved (or Defined Purpose) IPv4 allocation
from ARIN qualify for an initial allocation of ARIN’s minimum allocation size.”"
Given the lack of responses we've received thus far I would also like to pose the question to the community: do you feel that this is a policy the AC should continue to work on?
Again, if the community feels strongly one way or another please respond in the PPML so we can gain a sense of whether or not this policy has community support.
Much appreciated,
Kaitlyn
Kaitlyn Pellak
Amazon – Technical Business Developer II
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The following Draft Policy has been revised:
* ARIN-2024-7: Addition of Definitions for General and Special Purpose IP Addresses
Revised text is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2024_7/ <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2024_7/>
You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this Draft Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
* Technically Sound
* Supported by the Community
The PDP can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/>
Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/>
Regards,
Eddie Diego
Policy Analyst
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
Draft Policy ARIN-2024-7: Addition of Definitions for General and Special Purpose IP Addresses
Problem Statement:
The Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM) often treats general purpose and special purpose IP addresses differently. Unfortunately, we don’t have a convenient to use term to describe these categories, so policy often becomes either excessively wordy or does not correctly capture the intent. Examples of this can be found in section 4.1.8 of the NRPM, and in (currently pending) Draft Policies ARIN-2023-8 (where the fact that 4.4 and 4.10 space isn’t counted against an organization is repeated numerous times) and ARIN-2022-12 (where the text does not exclude 4.4 and 4.10 allocations from being counted against an organization, but it is the intent that those allocations should be ignored). Additionally, temporary allocations under section 11 are rarely carved out, even when 4.4 and 4.10 are, even though it is likely the policy’s intent that these too should be ignored.
Policy Statement:
Add the following definition to Section 2
2.18 Reserved IPv4 and IPv6 Addresses
Addresses that are reserved by ARIN for specific purposes including, but not limited to; maintaining critical infrastructure, facilitating IPv6 deployment, or temporary experimental purposes as approved by ARIN.
Timetable for Implementation: Immediate.
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