[arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation

[Martin Hannigan]

Whats the distribution of requests by prefix size %?

Thanks John.



On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 13:40 John Sweeting <jsweeting at arin.net> wrote:

> Q: Wasn't there just a distribution in the ARIN-ISSUED report that would
> change the situation?
>
> A: Yes, there were 318 /24s allocated to 117 organizations on the waitlist
> last week. There were 819 organizations on the waitlist at the time of
> distribution with 702 remaining upon completion of the distribution. The
> oldest request was from January 31, 2023 (20 months)  and the newest
> request filled was from April 25, 2023 (17 months). If the maximum
> allocated had been limited to /24 by policy then 318 requests would have
> been filled leaving 501 remaining on the list with the newest request being
> filled near the end of September 2023 (12 months).
>
>
>
> Please let us know if you have any further questions. Thanks.
>
>
>
> *From: *ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> on behalf of Mike Burns
> via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> *Date: *Monday, October 7, 2024 at 10:01 AM
> *To: *'William Herrin' <bill at herrin.us>, 'Denis Motova' <
> dmotova at brcrude.com>
> *Cc: *arin-ppml at arin.net <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum
> Allocation
>
> Hello,
>
> The current waiting list situation is absurd.
> We are requiring and performing a 2 year justification for addresses that
> won't be delivered for 3 years.
> It's the kind of bureaucratic stupidity that is a sign of poor governance.
>
> Something has to change to avoid the optics. This proposal would at least
> bring the justifications in line with the deliveries.
> There have been some suggested changes, including bumping the /24 to a /23
> and grandfathering current list members.
> Maybe we could get some staff feedback on how these changes might affect
> the list size and duration?
>
> Wasn't there just a distribution in the ARIN-ISSUED report that would
> change the situation?
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> On Behalf Of William Herrin
> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2024 4:23 AM
> To: Denis Motova <dmotova at brcrude.com>
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum
> Allocation
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 5:28 PM Denis Motova <dmotova at brcrude.com> wrote:
> > Like Fernando, I'm not entirely convinced that reducing the /22 to a
> > /24 offers significant benefits beyond potentially shortening the
> waiting list.
> > In my view, a /24 (256 IPs) feels quite limiting. I’d be more
> > supportive of a /23 (512 IPs), as a /24 seems too small to accommodate
> > the growth\ needs of startups and new businesses.
>
> Hi Denis,
>
> Bear in mind that a startup or new business remains eligible to acquire
> addresses on the market even after receiving an allocation from the waiting
> list. I'm dubious of the proposition that an adequately funded startup can
> afford to wait for addresses to become available on the waiting list.
>
> The waiting list, in its current incarnation, seems to me like more of a
> tool for hobbyists and charities -- folks doing something on a shoestring
> budget that doesn't have to be done on a timeline. And of course folks
> gaming the system with manufactured justifications to get something for
> free. The latter group can afford to wait as long as it takes.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>
>
> --
> William Herrin
> bill at herrin.us
> https://bill.herrin.us/
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