[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2024-1: Definition of Organization ID/Org ID
Dale W. Carder
dwcarder at es.net
Tue Nov 19 11:15:42 EST 2024
Thanks for the clarifications, John.
It would seem like adding this definition should be a slam dunk! However
the current text seems too out of step vs current practice, as I try to
outline below.
Thus spake John Sweeting (jsweeting at arin.net) on Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 04:52:29PM +0000:
> From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> on behalf of Dale W. Carder <dwcarder at es.net>
> Date: Monday, November 18, 2024 at 10:44 AM
> Thus spake ARIN (info at arin.net) on Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 12:48:53PM -0400:
> > Proposed:
> >
> > Section 2.18. Organization Identifier (Org ID)
> >
> > An Organizational Identifier (Org ID) is an identifier assigned to resource holders in the ARIN registry.
<snip>
> (JS) This would not happen as OrgIDs are explicitly detailed here:
> https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/account/records/org/
>
> The description on that webpage “An Organization ID (Org ID) represents a business, nonprofit corporation, or government entity in the ARIN database.” would work as well.
I think we should probably use language like this for the definition,
because it describes what the Org ID *is* and what it represents, vs the
current proposal ARIN-2024-1 text which is (incorrectly) prescribing
*how it is used*.
> Likewise, do all Org ID's have resources, or are there Org ID's that do
> not?
>
> (JS) There are OrgIDs that do not have resources at times due to several reasons. Examples would be waiting for their first request to be approved, transferring all resources to another OrgID, and returning all resources to ARIN.
This clarification reinforces my belief that the proposed policy
language would make these states dubious if not outright invalid,
which is not what we want from the new definition.
Dale
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