[arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation

[Denis Motova]

Dear William,

I appreciate your message and your input.

I have some reservations about agreeing with the statement you made, and I'll explain my reasoning below:

I strongly believe that there are numerous legitimate businesses currently on the waiting list seeking IP space allocations of /22, /23, and /24. By removing the option for these allocations, we essentially transform the waiting list into what you described in a previous post as catering to "hobbyists and speculators." It's unlikely that any serious company would require only 256 IPs within a network; that's essentially a micro-network.

As you are aware, there are multiple avenues for obtaining IP space, including the waiting list and authorized purchase methods. From my perspective, if a business urgently needs IP space, they would likely follow the example of AWS and invest in acquiring the necessary resources rather than wait through the waiting list.

For instance, one of our customers acquired a /17 by purchasing it from the market after providing justifications to ARIN for the IP space. While this involved a significant financial investment, it demonstrated the seriousness of their business needs.

I fail to see the value in limiting everyone's network size solely to improve the visual appearance of the waiting list numbers.

Thank you once again for your collaborative spirit and feedback.

Sincerely,
Denis


On 16 Feb 2024, at 15:52, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 8:52 AM Denis Motova <dmotova at brcrude.com> wrote:
A. Decreasing the allocation to a /24 means that new allocation
holders would receive a minuscule network, hardly sufficient for
small to mid-sized deployments.

Hi Denis,

At this point, the wait list is for hobbyists and speculators: people
who can afford to wait, which a serious business cannot.

Tell me I'm wrong.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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