[arin-ppml] ARIN-2023-8 - Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation

[Matt Erculiani]

> your announcement from wherever you are in the world consumes a slot in
their routing tables

The size of the Internet’s routing table isn’t an ARIN problem, nor should
it influence number policy decisions. It’s a vendor and operator problem.

-Matt

Matt Erculiani


On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 17:05 William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 3:32 PM Dominik Dobrowolski
> <dominikdobrowolski.co at gmail.com> wrote:
> > In your article you mention two costs:
> >
> > 1. Cost of transport
> > 2. Cost of hardware
> >
> > Both are included into the transit price we pay. If it was unprofitable,
> transit prices would be higher to cover the costs.
>
> Howdy,
>
> Doesn't work that way. Look up "tragedy of the commons," and if it's
> not obvious ask me to explain further and I will.
>
>
> > Keep in mind that a full table in FIB is not necessary for DFZ access,
> there are plenty of people
> > running software routers capable of high throughput (especially with
> VPP, DPDK)
>
> It's not about what you spend or might be able to spend. It's about
> what everybody else spends. I wrote some of the software AWS runs
> using DPDK. It's a great platform. It's a great tool for building
> custom solutions at the network edge. Their network exterior
> participating in the DFZ runs on Cisco and Juniper big-iron like
> everybody else and your announcement from wherever you are in the
> world consumes a slot in their routing tables. Unless it happens to be
> with their BYOIP program, neither you nor anybody else pays them for
> that consumption.
>
>
> > Holding the growth of internet just to keep the life of routers longer
> is 2008 mentality, just like the article mentioned.
>
> The exact input numbers have changed since the paper was written in
> 2008. The math equations have not.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>
> --
> William Herrin
> bill at herrin.us
> https://bill.herrin.us/
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