[arin-ppml] ARIN-2023-8 - Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation

[John Santos]

On 8/14/2024 3:58 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 12:46 AM Gerry E.. George <ggeorge at digisolv.com> wrote:
>> As  a co-shepherd on policy 2023-8 (Gerry George & Brian Jones) on
>> Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation, I'm reaching
>> out for additional feedback from the community on this policy following the
>> robust discussions at and since ARIN-53.
> 
> Hi Gerry,
> 
> The wait list system is not really sane. If your need can afford to
> wait three years to fulfill it with addresses, how does that not say
> everything that needs to be said about its legitimacy?
> 
> I'd like to see a concrete proposal along the lines of releasing
> waitlist addresses to the brokers for sale or directly auctioning them
> off as they become available. Maybe the mechanics won't work out, but
> I'd like to see it and consider whether it's a reasonable idea after
> the details are ironed out. Since these are returned blocks,
> auctioning them explicitly would also allow bidders to evaluate their
> reputation history when making an offer rather than getting stuck with
> whatever random block comes up.
> 
> In the interests of fairness to the folks who joined the wait list in
> good faith, perhaps limit the first few auctions to folks already on
> the waitlist before opening it up to the public at large.
> 
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin

Perhaps the waiter has a use case that can limp along indefinitely using an 
ISP-provided static address (with no real protection against it ever changing) 
and a massive amount of NAT and RFC 1918 addresses, but it would be far more 
effect if they had a real /24 of routable address space no subject to the whims 
of their provider.  It is working, but far from optimal, and they are willing to 
wait a few years on the wait list.  On the other hand, they are a small business 
or a non-profit or an EDU or otherwise lack deep pockets so they have to watch 
their budget.  The wait list might not be perfect, but it is the best solution 
to their needs.



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John Santos
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
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