[arin-ppml] ARIN-2023-8 - Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation

Wed Aug 14 09:36:36 EDT 2024

Agreed

On Wednesday, August 14, 2024, Dominik Dobrowolski <
dominikdobrowolski.co at gmail.com> wrote:

> Denis,
>
> Have you read this policy?
>
> It only applies to any future requests
>
> Kind Regards,
> Dominik
>
> W dniu śr., 14.08.2024 o 15:07 Denis Motova <dmotova at brcrude.com>
> napisał(a):
>
>> Hi Gerry,
>>
>> Thank you for your thorough explanation of the policy and the proposed
>> changes.
>>
>> I agree that discussing this policy was important and that the community
>> has gained from the conversation. However, I DO NOT  support this policy,
>> as I don’t believe it benefits our community. If the policy moves forward
>> (somehow), I firmly believe that those already on the waiting list should
>> be grandfathered in and exempt from the new rules.
>>
>> I appreciate your thoughtful approach and guidance on this issue.
>>
>> Best,
>> Denis
>>
>> On 14 Aug 2024, at 4:46 AM, Gerry E.. George <ggeorge at digisolv.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> As  a co-shepherd on policy 2023-8 (Gerry George & Brian Jones) on Draft
>> Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation, I'm reaching out for
>> additional feedback from the community on this policy following the robust
>> discussions at and since ARIN-53.
>>
>> We had previously posed the following questions to the community:
>>
>> a). Do we keep working on this policy? (Y/N)
>> b). If yes, should consideration be given for some formula or weighted
>> method towards allocations to queue occupants?
>> c). If yes, is there a need to add a clause for dealing with existing
>> waitlist occupants?
>> And if so, how should they be handled?
>>
>> Note that if such a clause is determined for inclusion, it will likely
>> apply to ALL currently on the waitlist as at a specific point in time and
>> they ALL would thus be subject to any such clause in the policy, once
>> adopted.
>>
>>
>> The discussions which resulted from this generally converged to two main
>> tracks:
>>
>>    - Track 1. No need for this policy and should be abandoned, as it
>>    doesn't adequately solve the address scarcity problem.
>>    - Track 2. Keep policy, but ensure that existing waitlist
>>    participants are grandfathered in, and would not apply to current
>>    unfulfilled requests.
>>
>>
>> If Track 2 were to be pursued, then consideration for those currently on
>> the waitlist can be addressed by adding the following clause:
>>
>> Proposed Text:
>> *This policy will apply to waitlist requests received following the
>> implementation of this policy. Waitlist requests received prior to the
>> implementation of this policy will not be affected.*
>>
>>
>> Thus, in order to move work on this policy forward, we now have revised
>> questions for the community:
>>
>>
>>    1. Do you support the draft policy with the proposed changes?
>>    2. If not, should there be any additional changes to be made so you
>>    would support it? What change(s) do you support?
>>    3. Should the community continue to work on the policy or abandon it?
>>
>>
>> The full proposed policy text in presented below for your perusal.
>>
>> *Problem Statement:*
>> 4.1.8 waiting times are too long, making justifications untimely by the
>> time a request is met. New entrants to the waiting list are expected to
>> wait three years for their need to be met under current policy, with a
>> waiting list of around 700 at this point. Data indicates that reducing the
>> current /22 maximum further to a /24 would significantly reduce this
>> waiting period, and further tightening the requirements by replacing the
>> /20 recipient maximum holdings with a /24, and preventing multiple visits
>> to the waiting list queue.
>>
>>
>> *PROPOSED TEXT (Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation*
>> )*:*
>> *4.1.8. ARIN Waitlist*
>> ARIN will only issue future IPv4 assignments/allocations (excluding 4.4
>> and 4.10 space) from the ARIN Waitlist. The maximum size aggregate that an
>> organization may qualify for is a /24.
>> Organizations which ever held any IPv4 space other than special use space
>> received under section 4.4 or 4.10 are not eligible to apply.
>> Address space distributed from the waitlist will not be eligible for
>> transfer, with the exception of Section 8.2 transfers, for a period of 60
>> months. This policy will be applied to all future distributions from the
>> waitlist to include those currently listed. Qualified requesters will also
>> be advised of the availability of the transfer mechanism in section 8.3 as
>> an alternative mechanism to obtain IPv4 addresses.
>> Waiting list recipients must demonstrate the need for a /24 on an
>> operating network.
>>
>> *This policy will apply to waitlist requests received following the
>> implementation of this policy. Waitlist requests received prior to the
>> implementation of this policy will not be affected.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gerry E. George*
>> ICT Consultant and Business Solutions Architect;
>> *DigiSolv, Inc.* [P.O. Box 1677, Castries, Saint Lucia]
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>>
>> *Gerry E. George*
>> ICT Consultant and Business Solutions Architect;
>> *DigiSolv, Inc.* [P.O. Box 1677, Castries, Saint Lucia]
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