[arin-ppml] ARIN-2023-8 - Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation

Wed Aug 14 09:10:17 EDT 2024

Denis,

Have you read this policy?

It only applies to any future requests

Kind Regards,
Dominik

W dniu śr., 14.08.2024 o 15:07 Denis Motova <dmotova at brcrude.com>
napisał(a):

> Hi Gerry,
>
> Thank you for your thorough explanation of the policy and the proposed
> changes.
>
> I agree that discussing this policy was important and that the community
> has gained from the conversation. However, I DO NOT  support this policy,
> as I don’t believe it benefits our community. If the policy moves forward
> (somehow), I firmly believe that those already on the waiting list should
> be grandfathered in and exempt from the new rules.
>
> I appreciate your thoughtful approach and guidance on this issue.
>
> Best,
> Denis
>
> On 14 Aug 2024, at 4:46 AM, Gerry E.. George <ggeorge at digisolv.com> wrote:
>
> As  a co-shepherd on policy 2023-8 (Gerry George & Brian Jones) on Draft
> Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation, I'm reaching out for
> additional feedback from the community on this policy following the robust
> discussions at and since ARIN-53.
>
> We had previously posed the following questions to the community:
>
> a). Do we keep working on this policy? (Y/N)
> b). If yes, should consideration be given for some formula or weighted
> method towards allocations to queue occupants?
> c). If yes, is there a need to add a clause for dealing with existing
> waitlist occupants?
> And if so, how should they be handled?
>
> Note that if such a clause is determined for inclusion, it will likely
> apply to ALL currently on the waitlist as at a specific point in time and
> they ALL would thus be subject to any such clause in the policy, once
> adopted.
>
>
> The discussions which resulted from this generally converged to two main
> tracks:
>
>    - Track 1. No need for this policy and should be abandoned, as it
>    doesn't adequately solve the address scarcity problem.
>    - Track 2. Keep policy, but ensure that existing waitlist participants
>    are grandfathered in, and would not apply to current unfulfilled requests.
>
>
> If Track 2 were to be pursued, then consideration for those currently on
> the waitlist can be addressed by adding the following clause:
>
> Proposed Text:
> *This policy will apply to waitlist requests received following the
> implementation of this policy. Waitlist requests received prior to the
> implementation of this policy will not be affected.*
>
>
> Thus, in order to move work on this policy forward, we now have revised
> questions for the community:
>
>
>    1. Do you support the draft policy with the proposed changes?
>    2. If not, should there be any additional changes to be made so you
>    would support it? What change(s) do you support?
>    3. Should the community continue to work on the policy or abandon it?
>
>
> The full proposed policy text in presented below for your perusal.
>
> *Problem Statement:*
> 4.1.8 waiting times are too long, making justifications untimely by the
> time a request is met. New entrants to the waiting list are expected to
> wait three years for their need to be met under current policy, with a
> waiting list of around 700 at this point. Data indicates that reducing the
> current /22 maximum further to a /24 would significantly reduce this
> waiting period, and further tightening the requirements by replacing the
> /20 recipient maximum holdings with a /24, and preventing multiple visits
> to the waiting list queue.
>
>
> *PROPOSED TEXT (Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation*
> )*:*
> *4.1.8. ARIN Waitlist*
> ARIN will only issue future IPv4 assignments/allocations (excluding 4.4
> and 4.10 space) from the ARIN Waitlist. The maximum size aggregate that an
> organization may qualify for is a /24.
> Organizations which ever held any IPv4 space other than special use space
> received under section 4.4 or 4.10 are not eligible to apply.
> Address space distributed from the waitlist will not be eligible for
> transfer, with the exception of Section 8.2 transfers, for a period of 60
> months. This policy will be applied to all future distributions from the
> waitlist to include those currently listed. Qualified requesters will also
> be advised of the availability of the transfer mechanism in section 8.3 as
> an alternative mechanism to obtain IPv4 addresses.
> Waiting list recipients must demonstrate the need for a /24 on an
> operating network.
>
> *This policy will apply to waitlist requests received following the
> implementation of this policy. Waitlist requests received prior to the
> implementation of this policy will not be affected.*
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gerry E. George*
> ICT Consultant and Business Solutions Architect;
> *DigiSolv, Inc.* [P.O. Box 1677, Castries, Saint Lucia]
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