[arin-ppml] Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question

Ron Grant ron+arin-ppml at balansoft.com
Mon May 8 00:40:13 EDT 2023


Pitch perfect points herein:
- Transfer market already successful
- Avoids a "highly litigious reclamation process"
- Leasing is a natural evolution of the Transfer process
- Section 12 allows both for a reclamation due to misuse, and for a 
green light after 5 years.

I withdraw my initial "can o' worms" objection - when likening them to 
transfers, it looks like we already have controls in place.


On 2023-05-07 3:08 p.m., David Farmer via ARIN-PPML wrote:
> In my opinion, the 60-month probation on transfers in section 4.1.8 is 
> intended to prevent immediate monetization through the transfer market 
> of IPv4 resources obtained from the waiting list. Allowing the lease 
> of IPv4 resources obtained from the waiting list prior to the end of 
> the 60-month probation would seem to flaunt the intent of the 
> probation. However, once past the 60-month probation, allowing the 
> transfer or lease of IPv4 resources seems consistent with the policies 
> intent.
>
> I would like to point out that the transfer market has been remarkably 
> successful in making IPv4 resources voluntarily available that 
> otherwise would not have been available or would have required a 
> highly litigious reclamation process to be made available. In 
> addition, leasing seems to be a natural evolution of the transfer 
> market for those that do not have the capital funding to obtain IPv4 
> resources on the transfer market. Finally, despite a few issues, the 
> waiting list has also been remarkably successful at ensuring any IPv4 
> resources returned to ARIN, for whatever reason, are redistributed to 
> the ARIN community.
>
> Suggestions that ARIN should instead auction the waiting list 
> resources, while seemingly logical, given the success of the transfer 
> market, nevertheless seem incompatible with ARIN's not-for-profit status.
>
> In summary, leasing IPv4 resources obtained from the waiting list 
> after the 60-month probation should be allowed. Prior to that, leasing 
> should not be allowed. How we effectively enforce that is another 
> question entirely, and I personally don't have any good answers to 
> that question.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 10:54 AM WOOD Alison * DAS 
> <Alison.WOOD at das.oregon.gov> wrote:
>
>     Good morning PPML!
>
>     I would like community feedback on the leasing of ip space that is
>     obtained from the waitlist.  Please let me know what you think and
>     if a policy proposal would be warranted.
>
>     Thank you!
>
>     -Alison
>
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