[arin-ppml] Policy Experience Report Working Group

[Dustin Moses]

According to ARIN policy, the maximum allocation size an organization can get is a /22 from the waitlist. Considering also that an organization can only have 1 waitlist request at a time and how long it takes to get an allocation on that waitlist, I don't see a lot of incentive for a for-profit entity to do this, especially over and over.

I believe the waitlist parameters inhibit organizations do this for a money making scheme.

Also, since the IP market already exists, what if an organization who gets an allocation from the waitlist, changes its priorities after a few months and decides to lease that space to another org? They cannot by policy 4.1.8 transfer that space to another organization for 60 months, unless they went through 8.2 rules which are about re-organizing/merging. Enacting a policy explicitly denying leasing after a waitlist fulfillment would be tying the hands of that organization and thus no-one benefits here.

I do not see a reason to add policy around leasing those IP addresses at this time.


Dustin Moses
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   1. Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question
      (WOOD Alison * DAS)
   2. Re: Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question
      (Michael B. Williams)


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Good morning PPML!

I would like community feedback on the leasing of ip space that is obtained from the waitlist.  Please let me know what you think and if a policy proposal would be warranted.

Thank you!

-Alison
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Are you asking if an entity were to obtain IP space from the waitlist, should they be permitted to lease it to someone else? My answer is a resounding no. That defeats the whole purpose of the waitlist. Entities should not be encouraged to hoard IP space because ARIN will subsidise the cost, allowing a for-profit entity to make money from obtaining IP space.
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