[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-13: Clean-up of NRPM Section 2.10

Chris Woodfield chris at semihuman.com
Wed Sep 14 14:41:18 EDT 2022


Speaking with my AC hat on and as a co-shepherd for this policy. For the record, I am not the author, but I, like many others deploying IPv6 in their own datacenters, would stand to benefit from this particular policy change.

Paul - I believe your assessment is correct. This language is intended to capture the use case where a /64 may be allocated to a virtual network (for example, routing a /64 to a hypervisor or k8s pod or node) as well as a physical network, which is what the current policy accounts for. As is, accounting for multiple VMs with independent IPs must be done on a per-VM basis, and AFAIK can’t be counted as individual /64s for usage-based justification. 

If the community finds this language unacceptably unclear, suggestions on different approaches to capturing this use case in language would be welcome :) 

-C

> On Aug 23, 2022, at 11:12 AM, Paul R. Tagliamonte <paultag at gmail.com> wrote:
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> It seems like this change would mean a single physical data is not "one site" as defined by the end user rules if each 'customer' gets a globally routable subnet.
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> That does seem like a good distinction, since a single site hosting 10,000 customers' virtual infrastructure should probably be treated differently than a single site with a single subnet.
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>   Paul
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> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 2:05 PM David Farmer via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net <mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>> wrote:
> Opposed as written.
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> I agree; the new definition is less clear and way more abstract, in my opinion.  Further, without a more specific statement of a problem with or a misunderstanding created by the current text, I would prefer to keep the current text.
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> Thanks.
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> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 12:13 PM Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net <mailto:andrew.dul at quark.net>> wrote:
> Opposed as written.  
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> I do not find the new definition to be clearer, I do not know what a "non-divisible physical or virtual point" is or isn't....
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> Andrew
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> On 8/23/2022 9:30 AM, ARIN wrote:
>> On 18 August 2022, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-318: Clean-up of NRPM Section 2.10" as a Draft Policy.
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>> Draft Policy ARIN-2022-13 is below and can be found at:
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>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_13/ <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_13/>
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>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
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>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
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>> * Supported by the Community
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>> The PDP can be found at:
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>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/>
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>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/>
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>> Regards,
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>> Sean Hopkins
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>> Senior Policy Analyst
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>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
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>> Draft Policy ARIN-2022-13: Clean-up of NRPM Section 2.10
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>> Problem Statement:
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>> This proposal continues the work that the ARIN AC NRPM Clean-up Working Group undertook to conduct an editorial review of the NRPM. It relates specifically to Section 2.10. The focus of this proposal is to both clarify and simplify the wording of the section.
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>> Policy statement:
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>> Replace the existing text: “The term End Site shall mean a single structure or service delivery address, or, in the case of a multi-tenant structure, a single tenant within said structure (a single customer location).” With the new text: “An End Point is the smallest non-divisible physical or virtual point in a network requiring IPv6 address space.”
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>> Timetable for Implementation: Immediate
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>> Anything Else: This proposal is intended to replace ARIN-prop-305 in part, but is not considered strictly editorial in nature.
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