[arin-ppml] Opinions.. Layer Host aka Global Frag, Higher level approaches

Michael Peddemors michael at linuxmagic.com
Sun Nov 20 09:58:27 EST 2022


Just curious, want opinions.. We all know about 'bullet proof' hosters, 
who facilitate criminal activity, but when huge swathes of the internet 
IPv4 space is used, and obviously the activity of those networks creates 
large risks to the internet community, what are the next steps to be 
taken?

Is this a case for ARIN to be involved in? Does the internet community 
have a role in this? While we are all for an open and free internet, 
something needs to be done.  Oh sure, independent organizations and 
reputation list maintainers are probably already blocking traffic from 
them, is this a case for legal action? Class action suits? Global 
agreement to sanction the operators? Should organizations like M3AAWG 
take a position?

Should they at least not be able to use that activity as an excuse to 
get more space? The information in 'rwhois' is often questionable, as to 
who <sic> they delegate IP space to.

Love to hear the communities thoughts..

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