[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation Requirement for 8.5.5

[Sylvain Baya]

Dear ARIN-PPML,

Le lundi 27 juin 2022, Tom Fantacone <tom at iptrading.com> a écrit :

> I don't believe either form (Acknowledgement or Attestation) are currently
> optional.  Only the Acknowledgement form needs to be notarized, however.
>
>
>

Tom,
:'-( ...i've understood, after John's clarifications, that
you were mostly right.

Thanks for your email, brother :-)

Shalom,
--sb.



>
> ---- On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 17:58:21 -0400 *Sylvain Baya <abscoco at gmail.com
> <abscoco at gmail.com>>* wrote ---
>
> Dear ARIN-PPML,
>
> Please find my comments below, inline...
>
> Thanks.
>
> Le samedi 25 juin 2022, Tom Fantacone <tom at iptrading.com> a écrit :
>
> Owen,
>
> This is actually the link for the sample Officer Attestation:
>
>
>
> Hi Tom,
> Thanks for adding more clarifications, brother :-)
>
>
>
> https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/
> OfficerAttestation_watermark.pdf
>
> The link you provided was for the "Officer Acknowledgement".
>
>
>
>
> Right, thanks!
>
>
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> The Officer Acknowledgement is a notarized form
>
>
>
> Here, you seem to have kickly generalised an
> optional act :-/
>
> It's not what the documented [1] procedure states:
>
> <quote1>
> "*No notarization is necessary*. Note that the form
> will be provided to you and is not available via our
> website."
> </quote1>
> __
> [1]: https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/
> attestation/#:~:text=No%20notarization%20is%20necessary,not%20available%
> 20via%20our%20website.
>
>
>
>
> signed by the Seller of the resources verifying, among other things, that
> the signer is authorized on behalf of the source entity to make the
> resource transfer.
>
>
>
> ...it would be really useful to render this attestation
>  mandatory, imho; as it appears to be optional [1].
>
>
>
> That helps to avoid a situation where an unauthorized employee with ARIN
> online access could make a resource transfer without permission.
>
>
>
> Thanks for mentioning this valuable detail.
>
> FWIW, the tool is available; but it's still [2] optional :'-(
>
> <paste2>
> "Officer Acknowledgment
>
> The Officer Acknowledgment form , *when signed*
> *and notarized*, *is required to be provided* to
> ARIN *by a source organization* (current registrant)
>  for a Transfer to Specified Recipients in the ARIN
> Region (8.3) or an Inter-RIR Transfer (8.4). An
> officer of the source organization needs to sign this
>  form, have it notarized, and provide it to ARIN."
> </paste2>
> __
> [2]: https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/#:~:text=Officer%
> 20Acknowledgment,notarized%2C%20and%20provide%20it%20to%20ARIN.
>
>
> Would you like it to become mandatory?
>
>
>
>
>
> The Officer Attestation is a simpler form signed by the Buyer attesting to
> the accuracy of the justification data and doesn't require notarization.
>
>
>
>
> Tom, could you, please, explain why?
>
> ...imho! the new resource holder *must* be an org
> which is willing to demonstrate its *need* of INRs.
>
>
>
>
>
> That's the one the draft policy seeks to eliminate.
>
>
>
>
> This is a new information, at least for me, and i
> thank you for this useful clarification, brother.
>
> ...i see it, at least, become optionally validated.
> As you explained; the interest in validating the
> Officer Acknowledgement document, is to add
> more confidence to the process, for the new
> resource holder.
> Why not also validate Officer Acknowledgement
> documents?
> If the new resource holder's right representative
> could sign a notarized document, then the new
> destination of those INRs, being transfered, might
> be more safe, and the numbering community
> would celebrate that happy end...imho :-/
>
> Rather than supporting this attempt to prevent the
> use of  Officer Attestation documents, i recommend
>  that its validation becomes the norm & its non
> validation an exception. This would add more
> protection against INRs reservation, imho.
>
> Thanks to let me know if i misunderstood something...
>
> This is where, i have to call John again...or anyone,
> with clue, from ARIN's Staff...for help :-)
>
> Shalom,
> --sb.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Tom Fantacone
>
>
>
> ---- On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 00:41:46 -0400 *Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
> <arin-ppml at arin.net <arin-ppml at arin.net>>* wrote ---
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