[arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?

[Chris Woodfield]

To be specific, are you referring to heirs of biological persons, or organizations? I only mentioned bio persons as an analogy, but you’re correct that there are registrants, legacy or otherwise, that are people, not organizations. To the extent that this is the policy for resources assigned to a deceased person, I’d be interested in seeing that documented.

-C

> On Jul 25, 2022, at 8:45 AM, Paul E McNary <pmcnary at cameron.net> wrote:
> 
> I was told by John in person that heirs/successors had no legal rights to legacy resources. 
> This was also repeated by ARIN staff at the time.
> They would be automatically recovered on death.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Woodfield" <chris at semihuman.com>
> To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg at tristatelogic.com>, "arin-ppml" <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 10:41:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?
> 
> I’d expect that in the case of an assignee subject to the RSA/LRSA, this would be a self-correcting issue - if the assignee or its successor does not pay their registration fee, the resources would eventually reclaimed by ARIN and eventually allocated via the waiting list. Other resources, however, could easily stagnate and require remediation work to either connect to the legal heir of the defunct assignee organization; just like biological persons, there should be some effort to locate potential heirs/successor organizations before officially declaring the resource abandoned. To my knowledge, no such process exists.
> 
> -C
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Please allow me to ask a different but related question.
>> 
>> As I understand it, all ARIN members are obligated, on an annual basis,
>> to pay a fee to ARIN for their membership, and also some additional fees,
>> again annually, based upon their assigned number resources, and more
>> specifically, based upon the number thereof.
>> 
>> If any of that is not correct, then I hope and trust that someone will
>> gently correct me.
>> 
>> Assuming that it is correct however, is there anything within either the
>> RSAs or within the NRPM that obliges member entities to make these annual
>> payments to ARIN themselves, directly?  Or may some third party make some
>> such payments on behalf of, say, some specific member entity?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> rfg
>> 
>> 
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