[arin-ppml] {Spam?} Re: Open Letter Regarding 650% Rate-Hike for Legacy Users

[Cheken Chetty]

+1, I feel the same
Cheken

On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 7:31 PM Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML <
arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:

> Let me be clear…
>
> I do not feel that the overall costs of operating ARIN at this time are
> unreasonable.
>
> I do feel that the apportionment of fees in the new system is very unfair
> to certain registrants.
>
> Owen
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2021, at 08:51 , Steve Noble <snoble at sonn.com> wrote:
>
> Your and my view of rich are obviously different but let's put that aside.
>
> But my point was very specific, if people are talking about ARIN running a
> deficit and having to raise rates, you should look at the costs of the
> organization.
>
> If you are complaining to John that the rate increases are not fair,
> again, look at the costs. If they are too high, then they can be lowered
> and the rates lowered along with them.
>
> If you think ARIN is doing everything correctly including compensation
> then I don't see the issue as it appears that John supports this billing
> model.
>
> If you don't agree, than let's have a productive discussion.
>
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 6:33 AM Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 12:33 AM Steve Noble <snoble at sonn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Since they are a non-profit, they could also cut executive salaries. As
>>> of 2019, John was being paid over $546,000 to respond to posts on mailing
>>> lists.
>>>
>>> https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/541860956
>>> Key Employees and Officers Compensation
>>> JOHN CURRAN (CEO AND PRESIDENT) $546,029
>>> RICHARD JIMMERSON (COO) $347,120
>>> JOHN SWEETING (SR. DIRECTOR, RSD) $279,352
>>> MARK KOSTERS (CTO) $276,796
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am tempted to throw gasoline on this fire. However, that isn't
>> productive, nor is this, in light of a serious concern related to the fee
>> structure. Is hare that concern as well.
>>
>> If we want good people? We pay. For most of these positions and salaries
>> pay is well below career positions that most of these folks could easily
>> obtain in the industries we/ARIN serves. Nobody is getting rich working at
>> ARIN. John Curran is the face of the organization and it's his job to
>> answer these questions. It may not be his job to answer _every_ question,
>> but speaking for myself: I have zero issue with his pay and duties.
>>
>> Fees are ultimately the board's responsibility:
>> https://www.arin.net/about/welcome/board/
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> -M<
>>
>>
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