[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update 4.2.1.2 Annual Renewal Fee
Fernando Frediani
fhfrediani at gmail.com
Sun Jan 17 09:57:26 EST 2021
Sorry correcting a typo, I meant at the end "otherwise policies would
tend to be made directed to benefit only as subset of Internet
participants in the region."
Regards
Fernando
On 17/01/2021 11:53, Fernando Frediani wrote:
>
> Hello Michael
>
> I don't agree with John's view that if Board would decide to do this
> it would still make ARIN compatible with ICANN's ICP-2 specially
> Section 3 simply because Board represents only members not the
> community and having a body elected only by the members which is one
> of the interested parties in the process excluding community then.
> Regarding ARIN's bylaws Section 2 that mentions "transparent
> multi-stakeholder process" it will depend how it is interpreted who
> are the stakeholders and if that includes community as well.
>
> John - thanks for engaging in this discussion and bringing your view,
> but knowing how the RIR ecosystem and other RIRs work in that sense,
> reading the ICP-2 it doesn't make sense the idea that Board could make
> and adopt policies by itself without involvement of the community. If
> in ARIN that can be considered legal, if it would ever start happening
> that could bring up doubts of about compatibility with ICP-2 in the
> sense I mentioned above. There are reasons community can never be
> excluded from policy making process (even in emergency situations),
> otherwise policies multi-stakeholder directed to benefit only as
> subset of Internet participants in the region.
>
> Regards
> Fernando
>
> On 17/01/2021 09:48, Michael B. Williams wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Just to be clear though my understanding is that despite the PDP
>> being in place and the board principally following the process, there
>> is no requirement to do so. The board could decide for any reason to
>> implement or change a policy even if it was not an emergency
>> situation or warrant an urgent need. I just think this needs to be
>> made clear to the community that the PDP is a process used to help
>> inform the boards decision making and is non-binding. While the board
>> generally adheres to the recommendations they are able to institute
>> any policy, reject any policy, or decide that today they did not feel
>> like using the PDP simply because they did not want to.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 23:33 John Curran <jcurran at arin.net
>> <mailto:jcurran at arin.net>> wrote:
>>
>> On 17 Jan 2021, at 4:16 AM, Michael B. Williams
>> <Michael.Williams at glexia.com
>> <mailto:Michael.Williams at glexia.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Fernando -
>> >
>> > I don’t believe this is correct. The board, from my reading, is
>> able to make and adopt without any other input or approval from
>> anyone else any policy they deem appropriate fair and fit for
>> internet number and resource allocation.
>> >
>> > John Curran - please correct me if I’m wrong here but the board
>> could make and adopt policies without any community input or
>> consideration if it so desired. Just because the board chooses
>> to, as a general matter of principle, does not make this binding
>>
>> Michael -
>>
>> You are correct - the ARIN Board can make (or suspend) policy
>> without any input or approval if need be, but the Board has
>> adopted the ARIN Policy Development Process that reserves such
>> acts for emergency situations. Accountability to the ARIN
>> community is maintained via the ARIN members collective power to
>> elect and remove Board members.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> /John
>>
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
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