<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
</head>
<body>
<p>Sorry correcting a typo, I meant at the end "otherwise policies
would tend to be made directed to benefit only as subset of
Internet participants in the region."</p>
<p>Regards<br>
Fernando<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/01/2021 11:53, Fernando Frediani
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:203ff15a-a525-098e-8fd5-13e470786d1a@gmail.com">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<p>Hello Michael</p>
<p>I don't agree with John's view that if Board would decide to do
this it would still make ARIN compatible with ICANN's ICP-2
specially Section 3 simply because Board represents only members
not the community and having a body elected only by the members
which is one of the interested parties in the process excluding
community then.<br>
Regarding ARIN's bylaws Section 2 that mentions "transparent
multi-stakeholder process" it will depend how it is interpreted
who are the stakeholders and if that includes community as well.</p>
<p>John - thanks for engaging in this discussion and bringing your
view, but knowing how the RIR ecosystem and other RIRs work in
that sense, reading the ICP-2 it doesn't make sense the idea
that Board could make and adopt policies by itself without
involvement of the community. If in ARIN that can be considered
legal, if it would ever start happening that could bring up
doubts of about compatibility with ICP-2 in the sense I
mentioned above. There are reasons community can never be
excluded from policy making process (even in emergency
situations), otherwise policies multi-stakeholder directed to
benefit only as subset of Internet participants in the region.</p>
<p>Regards<br>
Fernando<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/01/2021 09:48, Michael B.
Williams wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAGj=18Fi4W8-tiJ4YLuYLP9+gh3RLwbGio5mt6RxbZ8Ly6NTpQ@mail.gmail.com">
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
charset=UTF-8">
<div dir="auto">Hi John,</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Just to be clear though my understanding is that
despite the PDP being in place and the board principally
following the process, there is no requirement to do so. The
board could decide for any reason to implement or change a
policy even if it was not an emergency situation or warrant an
urgent need. I just think this needs to be made clear to the
community that the PDP is a process used to help inform the
boards decision making and is non-binding. While the board
generally adheres to the recommendations they are able to
institute any policy, reject any policy, or decide that today
they did not feel like using the PDP simply because they did
not want to. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Regards,</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Michael </div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at
23:33 John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">On
17 Jan 2021, at 4:16 AM, Michael B. Williams <<a
href="mailto:Michael.Williams@glexia.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Michael.Williams@glexia.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Fernando -<br>
> <br>
> I don’t believe this is correct. The board, from my
reading, is able to make and adopt without any other input
or approval from anyone else any policy they deem
appropriate fair and fit for internet number and resource
allocation.<br>
> <br>
> John Curran - please correct me if I’m wrong here but
the board could make and adopt policies without any
community input or consideration if it so desired. Just
because the board chooses to, as a general matter of
principle, does not make this binding<br>
<br>
Michael -<br>
<br>
You are correct - the ARIN Board can make (or suspend)
policy without any input or approval if need be, but the
Board has adopted the ARIN Policy Development Process that
reserves such acts for emergency situations.
Accountability to the ARIN community is maintained via
the ARIN members collective power to elect and remove
Board members.<br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
/John<br>
<br>
John Curran<br>
President and CEO<br>
American Registry for Internet Numbers<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
-- <br>
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"
data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Sent from Gmail Mobile</div>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</body>
</html>