[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Grandfathering of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

Mark Kiwiet mark at kkworx.com
Fri Jan 15 12:31:32 EST 2021


Inside/Private network space will probably always be IPv4.   I don't
understand why you would deal with IPv6 on the inside - you have the entire
freaking class A of 10.0.0.0/8 to design around - and make beautiful
designs as well.

Unless you're running a NOC or a Web Server Farm - you really don't need
more than 1 Public IP address for even 500+ private surfing endpoints.
 Outside of standard ports like TCP/25 - you can overload a single IP
address with hundreds of high random ports.

Right now - the biggest public IPv4 issue is waste.   There are tons of
public IPv4's that are not used because they are part of an overallocated
customer block.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:51 AM <hostmaster at uneedus.com> wrote:

> What expensive technology are you talking about?  Windows has had IPv6
> since Windows 2000.  Ditto with Apple or Chromebooks or any other tech
> that is commonly used in schools.
>
> Use of RFC1918 Ipv4 addresses is quite common in every school I have ever
> dealt with. Even at the university level, it is very uncommon to assign
> workstations to public IPv4 addresses, and some form of NAT is used for
> IPv4 access via common public addresses with or without a proxy.
>
> Albert Erdmann
> Network Administrator
> Paradise On Line Inc.
>
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2021, Jay Wendelin wrote:
>
> >
> > You would have to ask the ISP’s themselves.  My Schools will not want to
> be involved at all nor will we want to implement new and expensive
> technologies for
> > ip6.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > cidimage001.png at 01D698CE.05CAF3C0
> >
> > Jay Wendelin
> >
> > Chief Information Officer
> >
> > Cell: 309-657-5303
> >
> > jmw at poweredbystl.com
> >
> > cidimage002.png at 01D698CE.05CAF3C0 cidimage003.png at 01D698CE.05CAF3C0
> cidimage004.png at 01D698CE.05CAF3C0
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com>
> > Date: Friday, January 15, 2021 at 10:36 AM
> > To: Jay Wendelin <jmw at poweredbystl.com>
> > Cc: arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Grandfathering of
> Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16
> >
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> >
> > Didn't these ISPs in 2021 not invest IPv6 deployment and good CGNAT
> techniques and they rely only on keep getting more addresses from ARIN ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Fernando
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jan 2021, 13:29 Jay Wendelin, <jmw at poweredbystl.com> wrote:
> >
> >       I support this petition, I have many Public School Clients that
> rely on their ISP’s to manage and offer IP address.
> >
> >
> >
> >       Jay Wendelin
> >
> >       CIO
> >
> >       STL/BTS
> >
> >
> >
> >       cidimage001.png at 01D698CE.05CAF3C0
> >
> >       Jay Wendelin
> >
> >       Chief Information Officer
> >
> >       Cell: 309-657-5303
> >
> >       jmw at poweredbystl.com
> >
> >       cidimage002.png at 01D698CE.05CAF3C0
> cidimage003.png at 01D698CE.05CAF3C0 cidimage004.png at 01D698CE.05CAF3C0
> >
> >
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