[arin-ppml] Transparency on IPv4 transfers

[Hank Nussbacher]

On 28/10/2019 03:38, Michel Py wrote:

I don't care about the pricing.  What we should care about is what IP 
blocks get transferred.  RIPE used to provide some partial data here:
https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/transfer-statistics/within-ripe-ncc-service-region/ipv4-transfer-statistics
https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/transfer-statistics/inter-rir/inter-rir-ipv4-transfer-statistics
Been broken for a while.
But what I would like to see is a monthly update of the delegated file 
indicating which "country code" lost IP address space and which country 
code gained IP address space - and specifically listing the actual IP 
blocks:
https://ripe77.ripe.net/presentations/65-CC-extdelstats-database-IW.pdf

Regards,
Hank

> Dear ARIN members,
>
> I am moving here (where it belongs) a thread that started on nanog this week-end.
> Long story made short, I was suggesting that ARIN collects and publish financial data associated with NPRM 8.3 and possibly more transfers.
> Owen stated that he was "ambivalent" about it, which I interpret as a good state of mind for a dialog.
>
> Problem statement :
> At least one broker makes available the price paid by the recipient of transfers :
> https://auctions.ipv4.global/prior-sales
>
> My idea is as follows : I think this brings transparency to the market, and that ARIN should collect the data and publish it, so we have a more accurate picture of what the market is, and not only partial data from a small subset of brokers. We need better data.
>
> I like the idea of transparency. It may not be fashionable to say so, but auctions.ipv4.global somehow is the eBay of the transfer market and I like it.
>
> As a "buyer" I want to "buy" (note the quotes) a block of IPv4 addresses.
> Transparency on the market is good to me, because if I do my homework right I can expect a reasonably good estimate of what it is going to cost me.
>
> As a "seller" I want to "sell" (note the quotes) a block of IPv4 addresses.
> Transparency on the market is good to me, because if I do my homework right I can expect a reasonably good estimate of what I can get out of it.
>
> I think that there was a pretty good understanding that, if ARIN did not embrace the transfer market, there would have been a black market anyway.
> My suggestion is : transparent pricing is the next step. I am not suggesting that ARIN becomes the eBay of market transfers, but I am suggesting that ARIN publishes data about market pricing.
>
> Your comments are welcome.
>
> Michel.
>
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