[arin-ppml] Transparency on IPv4 transfers

Michel Py michel at arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us
Sun Oct 27 21:38:32 EDT 2019


Dear ARIN members,

I am moving here (where it belongs) a thread that started on nanog this week-end.
Long story made short, I was suggesting that ARIN collects and publish financial data associated with NPRM 8.3 and possibly more transfers.
Owen stated that he was "ambivalent" about it, which I interpret as a good state of mind for a dialog.

Problem statement :
At least one broker makes available the price paid by the recipient of transfers :
https://auctions.ipv4.global/prior-sales

My idea is as follows : I think this brings transparency to the market, and that ARIN should collect the data and publish it, so we have a more accurate picture of what the market is, and not only partial data from a small subset of brokers. We need better data.

I like the idea of transparency. It may not be fashionable to say so, but auctions.ipv4.global somehow is the eBay of the transfer market and I like it.

As a "buyer" I want to "buy" (note the quotes) a block of IPv4 addresses.
Transparency on the market is good to me, because if I do my homework right I can expect a reasonably good estimate of what it is going to cost me.

As a "seller" I want to "sell" (note the quotes) a block of IPv4 addresses.
Transparency on the market is good to me, because if I do my homework right I can expect a reasonably good estimate of what I can get out of it.

I think that there was a pretty good understanding that, if ARIN did not embrace the transfer market, there would have been a black market anyway.
My suggestion is : transparent pricing is the next step. I am not suggesting that ARIN becomes the eBay of market transfers, but I am suggesting that ARIN publishes data about market pricing.

Your comments are welcome.

Michel.



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