[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-12: M&A Legal Jurisdiction Exclusion

Joe Provo ppml at rsuc.gweep.net
Sat Oct 19 09:10:55 EDT 2019


Hey Bill,

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 07:42:20PM -0700, William Herrin wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 1:26 PM Joe Provo <ppml at rsuc.gweep.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 01:19:27PM -0700, William Herrin wrote:
> > > Lose "incorporated:" it has a specific legal meaning which excludes a
> > > portion of existing registrants.
> > > > > Then yeah, it solves my concern about forum shopping.
> > >
> >  If we borrow Mr Hannigan's suggestion, does this work:
> >
> >  "M&A activity resulting in the surviving legal entity which
> >   is not formed in the ARIN service region will be permitted
> >   to hold only their existing number resources directly
> >   allocated or assigned by ARIN."
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> Could this be the exception that proves the rule that natural persons are
> not permitted to request ARIN resources?  Natural persons are legal
> entities but they're not formed, they're born or naturalized. Do we -want-
> that implicit rejection to be policy?

If this were in Definitions or anywhere specifying who may
or may nkt have axcess tk any resources then I'd have that
concern. But this is scoped within 8.2 and as such is solely
regarding M&A. Are natural persons outside the ARIN service
region being the surviving, asset-golding legal entity 
actually a real world concern, or are we talking about a 
hypothetical corner case of an already rare corner case?

Cheers,

joe

> I'd stick with "legal entity" and avoid modifiers like "formed" or
> "incorporated."
> 
> Grammar's a bit rough too. "M&A activity" is the noun that goes with "will
> be permitted," but the idea is that the the legal entity will be permitted.
> Here's a stab at a rewrite:
> 
> "Where M&A activity results in a surviving legal entity outside the ARIN
> service region, the surviving legal entity may hold the number resources
> but is ineligible to receive additional ARIN number resources."
> 
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> 
> 
> -- 
> William Herrin
> bill at herrin.us
> https://bill.herrin.us/

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