[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-10: Inter-RIR M&A

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Tue Jun 18 14:20:49 EDT 2019


Well, I can't see how allowing IPv6 transfers or not can be compared to 
a 'feature' and discourage people to adopt it or not. If they do this 
based on this premise it is much worse for them than for the rest of the 
internet. And going beyond as it is normally discussed in these policy 
lists it is out of the scope of a policy to force or not IPv6 adoption.

About RIR 'competing' there should never be anything like that. RIRs are 
never there to compete between themselves, they are not companies that 
distribute profits in the way people are used to think. RIRs operate in 
a very different way and must be kept apart from practices that can bend 
their capacity to do a proper work within their functions.

Fernando

On 18/06/2019 14:46, Job Snijders wrote:
> On
>  Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 18:53 <hostmaster at uneedus.com 
> <mailto:hostmaster at uneedus.com>> wrote:
>
>     The main problem I see is that this policy for the first time will
>     open
>     the door up to IPv6 transfers.  I do not agree with IPv6 transfers.
>
>     Up to this point, the primary reason why we allow transfers of
>     IPv4 and 16
>     bit ASN numbers is the shortage of these resources.
>
>     In the case of IPv6 addresses, there is no shortage, therefore I
>     do not
>     think we need to be going down that road.
>
>
>
> There may be other reasons than “shortage” to administratively move 
> resources. Have you considered that others may have other priorities 
> and that there may be no clear downside to others if they use those 
> policy elements?
>
> I find it becoming increasingly hard to explain to anyone why IPv4 and 
> ASNs can move, but not IPv6. It discourages IPv6 because of lack of 
> feature parity.
>
>
>     If the policy was limited to IPv4 and 16 bit ASN's, I would not
>     have a
>     problem if indeed the business has moved to another region.
>     However, I do
>     not want to see this policy being used for forum shopping. I do not
>     want to see the "I do not like the policies of RIR A, so I am
>     taking my
>     ball (and my numbers) to RIR B"
>
>
>
> What is wrong with shopping? Competition brings out the best in all of 
> us.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Job
>
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