[arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

[Mike Burns]

I agree with Robert and Bill that it is an illogical market distortion to
have this source of free addresses.

And that the assumption that "need" at an earlier point in time is still the
same "need" when addresses randomly come available in the future is faulty.

I would prefer to starve the waiting list to death, but apparently it
continues to be fed by various inputs.

(I think recovered addresses should be returned to IANA or added to another
reserve pool at ARIN instead of adding them to waiting list inventory.) 

I don't support the selling of addresses by ARIN.

I think the 5 year waiting period is 4 years too long.

I think the recent recovery of fraudulently allocated space means that those
already on the waiting list should be grandfathered-in regarding size, and
regarding the new size limit of a /20 of their current holdings.

 

That said, in the interests of moving forward I support the AC
recommendation.

 

 

 

 

From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> On Behalf Of Robert Clarke
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2019 9:27 PM
To: William Herrin <bill at herrin.us>
Cc: ARIN-PPML List <arin-ppml at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised
Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

 

I agree with William. It's definitely not logical to hand out free
addresses.

 

Robert Clarke





On Jun 6, 2019, at 6:21 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us
<mailto:bill at herrin.us> > wrote:

 

Support, though frankly I'd prefer it if ARIN simply abolished the wait list
and put the addresses on the transfer market. 

 

Philosophically speaking, how could you possibly *need* addresses the way we
think of need if you can afford to wait months and months for them to become
available on the wait list? Seems to me like there's some fudging going on
at this point.

 

Regards,

Bill Herrin


> Replace section 4.1.8 et. seq. as follows, then reinstate the full
operation of sections 4.1.8, 4.1.8.1 and 4.1.8.2 immediately.
>
> 4.1.8 ARIN Waitlist
>
> ARIN will only issue future IPv4 assignments/allocations (excluding 4.4
and 4.10 space) from the ARIN Waitlist. The maximum size aggregate that an
organization may qualify for at any one time is a /22. Organizations will be
able to elect a smaller block size than they qualify for down to a /24. Only
organizations holding a /20 or less of IPv4 address space may apply and be
approved. Address space distributed from the waitlist will not be eligible
for transfer for a period of 60 months. This policy will be applied to all
future distributions from the waitlist to include those currently listed.
>
> Repeated requests, in a manner that would circumvent 4.1.6, are not
allowed: an organization currently on the waitlist must wait 90 days after
receiving a distribution from the waitlist before applying for additional
space. ARIN, at its sole discretion, may waive this requirement if the
requester can document a change in circumstances since their last request
that could not have been reasonably foreseen at the time of the original
request, and which now justifies additional space. Qualified requesters
whose request will also be advised of the availability of the transfer
mechanism in section 8.3 as an alternative mechanism to obtain IPv4
addresses.
>
> 4.1.8.1 Sequencing
>
> The position of each qualified request on the waiting list will be
determined by the date it was approved. Each organization may have one
approved request on the waiting list at a time.
>
> 4.1.8.2 Fulfillment
>
> ARIN will fulfill requests on a first-approved basis, subject to the size
of each available address block as address blocks become available for
distribution. A timely review of the original request may be conducted by
ARIN staff. Requests will not be partially filled. Any requests met through
a transfer will be considered fulfilled and removed from the waiting list

-- 

William Herrin

bill at herrin.us <mailto:bill at herrin.us> 

https://bill.herrin.us/

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