[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-21: Reserved Pool Replenishment
Fernando Frediani
fhfrediani at gmail.com
Mon Dec 30 23:01:42 EST 2019
Hello David.
Thanks for the responses and for the numbers below.
I have to agree that 4.10 and 4.4 specially should always be treated
with higher importance than the waiting-list.
My initial concern was that three years were maybe too much, but looking
at these numbers it doesn't seem to. Obviously it will always depend on
usage rate and I agree 4.10 is expected to increase reasonably over the
next years so when this policy is triggered we will have a chance to
review how the replenishment will work. On the other hand I have some
concern about a possible deadlock or freeze in the waiting list as I see
it as a minimum fair chance for newcomers to get some space the in a
similar way all others had in the past.
So I think your proposal based on the numbers below make sense.
Regards
Fernando Frediani
On 27/12/2019 00:25, David Farmer wrote:
>
> - With regards returning any other returned, reclaimed or revoke
> resources that were not from the reserved pools to them, although
> I see
> the good intent of it I find it difficult to support it as we
> don't know
> numbers related to this at the present. The numbers of assignments
> from
> these reserved pools, the amount available and the forecast for it
> are
> necessary for this analysis.
> Also it seems that three-year supply a long time for it to be
> kept. If
> the numbers mentioned point to the direction of the need of
> replenishing
> for these pools then the it may be necessary to review and discuss
> the
> supply time better. Without this information I cannot support this
> part
> of the proposal yet.
>
>
> The idea of this policy is to have a default action of
> replenishing these reserved pools only when or if they get down to a
> three-year or less supply. Until then, other recovered resources go to
> the waiting list. Even then the idea is to only replenish them to or
> maintain a three year supply in the reserved pools, any
> resources recovered beyond that would still go to the waiting list.
>
> Without this policy, when or if these reserved pools get low, we will
> just let them run out unless we have a consensus for a policy to
> change things at that time. However, I would like default action to be
> to replenish the reserved pools when or if they get low unless there
> is consensus at that time to let them run out, requiring policy action
> at that time if we want them to let them run out.
>
> As for the current status of these pools; the following is from the
> ARIN 44 meeting report, at the beginning of November, in response to a
> question during the discussion of ARIN-2019-17;
>
> John Sweeting: John Sweeting, ARIN staff. I think I'm going to
> answer Joe's question. So in the 4.10 pool, the IP pool -- sorry,
> Cathy -- there are 15,727 /24s left. 657 have been used over the
> time since it was implemented. And it puts about an average
> between 10 and 15 a month.
>
> On the 4.4, there's 123 issued. 389 left and about 1.5 per month.
> So maybe 15, 18 a year.
>
> 4.10 pool;
> 15,727 /24s left
> 15 /24s a month
> This is more than 80 years worth at that rate of use, but I expect
> the rate of use will increase for this pool.
>
> 4.4 pool;
> 389 /24s left
> 1.5 /24s a month
> This is more than 20 years worth at that rate of use.
>
> So this policy is not expected to have any effect for many years
> unless there is a dramatic increase in the use of these pools.
>
> Regards
> Fernando
>
> On 24/12/2019 11:41, ARIN wrote:
> >
> > On 19 December 2019, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted
> > "ARIN-prop-281: Reserved Pool Replenishment" as a Draft Policy.
> >
> > Draft Policy ARIN-2019-21 is below and can be found at:
> >
> > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_21/
> >
> > You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC
> will
> > evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this
> > draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource
> policy
> > as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically,
> these
> > principles are:
> >
> > * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> > * Technically Sound
> > * Supported by the Community
> >
> > The PDP can be found at:
> > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
> >
> > Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sean Hopkins
> > Policy Analyst
> > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >
> >
> > Draft Policy ARIN-2019-21: Reserved Pool Replenishment
> >
> > Problem Statement:
> >
> > While the current level of resources in the reserve pools
> created in
> > Sections 4.4 and 4.10 presently seem more than adequate for their
> > intended purposes. Nevertheless, even these well-resourced pools
> will
> > eventually run out. Therefore, we should make arrangements for
> their
> > replenishment, if or when necessary.
> >
> > Policy Statement:
> >
> > Add a new subsection in IPv4 General Principles, Section 4.1;
> >
> > 4.1.X Reserved Pool Replenishment
> >
> > Any resources allocated from a reserved pool created in Sections
> 4.4
> > or 4.10, or any other reserved pools created in the future, that
> are
> > returned, reclaimed, or revoked will be returned to the reserved
> pool
> > they were originally allocated from, regardless of the current
> level
> > of each pool. Further, any other resources returned, reclaimed, or
> > revoked will be prioritized for the replenishment of any
> reserved pool
> > that falls below a running three-year supply, which is based on the
> > previous three years of allocations from each pool.
> >
> > Timetable for Implementation: Immediate
> >
> > Anything Else:
> >
> > ARIN Staff should regularly report on the levels and projected
> > run-times for each reserved pool and immediately report when any
> > reserved pool falls below a three-year running supply.
> >
> > A three-year running supply was chosen to provide the ARIN Policy
> > Community adequate time to react through policy, as deemed
> appropriate
> > at that time, to an imminent run out event for one of the
> reserved pools.
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