[arin-ppml] LAST CALL - Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: POC Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or Reallocation
LeVere Harper
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Thu Apr 25 03:37:22 EDT 2019
I support this policy.
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> 1. Re: LAST CALL - Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: POC
> Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or Reallocation
> (Owen DeLong)
> 2. Re: LAST CALL - Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: POC
> Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or Reallocation
> (Martin Hannigan)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 19:58:25 -0700
> From: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
> To: David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu>
> Cc: ARIN <info at arin.net>, ARIN-PPML List <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] LAST CALL - Recommended Draft Policy
> ARIN-2017-12: POC Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or
> Reallocation
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> Support? Implementation ASAP, please.
>
> Owen
>
>
> > On Apr 22, 2019, at 07:27 , David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
> >
> > There have been relatively few comments on this policy on PPML since the
> text was revised in late January. Although, it seems to have been well
> supported at the Barbados meeting.
> >
> > ARIN 43 transcript;
> >
> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_43/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_9
> <
> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_43/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_9
> >
> >
> > ARIN 43 Video for presentation;
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxfZ128IqMU <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxfZ128IqMU>
> >
> > ARIN 43 Presentation Slide deck;
> >
> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_43/PDF/PPM/2017_12_intro.pdf
> <
> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_43/PDF/PPM/2017_12_intro.pdf
> >
> >
> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_43/PDF/PPM/2017_12.pdf
> <
> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_43/PDF/PPM/2017_12.pdf
> >
> >
> > It is therefore particularly important for anyone who objects to this
> policy or thinks this policy will create issues for their organization to
> speak up during this clast call period.
> >
> > Even if you support the policy, comments regarding the proper timeline
> for implementation are of interest. How long will your organization need
> to adapt to these changes?
> >
> > All comments are appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > David Farmer
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 1:04 PM ARIN <info at arin.net <mailto:
> info at arin.net>> wrote:
> > The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) met on 10 April 2019 and decided to send
> > the following Recommended Draft Policy to Last Call:
> >
> > ARIN-2017-12: POC Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or
> > Reallocation
> >
> > Feedback is encouraged during the Last Call period. All comments should
> > be provided to the Public Policy Mailing List. Last Call will expire on
> > 29 April 2019.
> >
> > The Recommended Draft Policy text is below and available at:
> > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ <
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/>
> >
> > The ARIN Policy Development Process is available at:
> > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ <
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sean Hopkins
> > Policy Analyst
> > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >
> >
> >
> > Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: POC Notification and Validation
> > Upon Reassignment or Reallocation
> >
> > AC Assessment of Conformance with the Principles of Internet Number
> > Resource Policy:
> >
> > This recommended draft policy: (1) enables fair and impartial number
> > administration as it ensures that ARIN has the means to communicate with
> > organizations receiving reallocations or detailed reassignments, and
> > does so in a clear, complete, concise and unambiguous manner; (2) is
> > technically sound in that it supports ARIN?s ability to maintain the
> > unique registration of Internet number resources; and (3) has community
> > support.
> >
> > Problem Statement:
> >
> > Some ISPs assign individuals to be POCs for reassigned blocks without
> > consultation of the individual they are inserting into Whois. For
> > example, during the reassignment/reallocation process, some large ISPs
> > automatically create POCs from their customer?s order form. This process
> > is automated for many ISPs and therefore the resulting POCs are not
> > validated prior to being created in the ARIN Whois database. This
> > creates unknowing POCs that have no idea what Whois is or even who ARIN
> > is at the time they receive the annual POC validation email. It can also
> > create multiple POCs per email address causing that same person to
> > receive a multitude of POC Validation emails each year.
> >
> > This policy proposal seeks to prevent the situation where a POC is
> > unwittingly and unintentionally inserted into Whois. Doing so will
> > reduce the significant amount of time that ARIN staff spend fielding
> > phone calls from POCs who have no idea they are in Whois.
> >
> > The proposal will improve the overall POC validation situation, by
> > ensuring that all reallocation or detailed reassignment requests are
> > related to a pre-existing receiving organization with at least one valid
> > POC object, and by requesting that any other existing invalid POC
> > objects are validated.
> >
> > Policy statement:
> >
> > Insert one new section into NRPM 3:
> >
> > 3.7 POC Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or Reallocation
> >
> > When a request for reallocation or detailed reassignment is made to
> > ARIN, the receiving organization must already be in the ARIN database
> > and associated with at least one validated POC object. If there are no
> > validated POC objects associated with the receiving organization, ARIN
> > shall reject the request.
> >
> > In addition to notifying the requester, ARIN will also notify, via
> > email, all POCs associated with the receiving organization, whether the
> > request was successful or not, and will request validation of any
> > invalid POC objects associated with the receiving organization.
> >
> > Note: Simple reassignments are made without any linkage to an
> > organization or POC objects in the ARIN database.
> > _______________________________________________
> > ARIN-PPML
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> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 23:03:55 -0400
> From: Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com>
> To: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
> Cc: ARIN-PPML List <arin-ppml at arin.net>, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu>
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] LAST CALL - Recommended Draft Policy
> ARIN-2017-12: POC Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or
> Reallocation
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> Owen ? as you and I both know this is way better than status quo. While it
> is far from perfect it is good enough to get started.
>
> +1
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 22:58 Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
> > Support? Implementation ASAP, please.
> >
> > Owen
> >
> >
> > On Apr 22, 2019, at 07:27 , David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
> >
> > There have been relatively few comments on this policy on PPML since the
> > text was revised in late January. Although, it seems to have been well
> > supported at the Barbados meeting.
> >
> > ARIN 43 transcript;
> >
> >
> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_43/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_9
> >
> > ARIN 43 Video for presentation;
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxfZ128IqMU
> >
> > ARIN 43 Presentation Slide deck;
> >
> >
> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_43/PDF/PPM/2017_12_intro.pdf
> >
> >
> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_43/PDF/PPM/2017_12.pdf
> >
> > It is therefore particularly important for anyone who objects to this
> > policy or thinks this policy will create issues for their organization to
> > speak up during this clast call period.
> >
> > Even if you support the policy, comments regarding the proper timeline
> for
> > implementation are of interest. How long will your organization need to
> > adapt to these changes?
> >
> > All comments are appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > David Farmer
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 1:04 PM ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
> >
> >> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) met on 10 April 2019 and decided to send
> >> the following Recommended Draft Policy to Last Call:
> >>
> >> ARIN-2017-12: POC Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or
> >> Reallocation
> >>
> >> Feedback is encouraged during the Last Call period. All comments should
> >> be provided to the Public Policy Mailing List. Last Call will expire on
> >> 29 April 2019.
> >>
> >> The Recommended Draft Policy text is below and available at:
> >> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
> >>
> >> The ARIN Policy Development Process is available at:
> >> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Sean Hopkins
> >> Policy Analyst
> >> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: POC Notification and Validation
> >> Upon Reassignment or Reallocation
> >>
> >> AC Assessment of Conformance with the Principles of Internet Number
> >> Resource Policy:
> >>
> >> This recommended draft policy: (1) enables fair and impartial number
> >> administration as it ensures that ARIN has the means to communicate with
> >> organizations receiving reallocations or detailed reassignments, and
> >> does so in a clear, complete, concise and unambiguous manner; (2) is
> >> technically sound in that it supports ARIN?s ability to maintain the
> >> unique registration of Internet number resources; and (3) has community
> >> support.
> >>
> >> Problem Statement:
> >>
> >> Some ISPs assign individuals to be POCs for reassigned blocks without
> >> consultation of the individual they are inserting into Whois. For
> >> example, during the reassignment/reallocation process, some large ISPs
> >> automatically create POCs from their customer?s order form. This process
> >> is automated for many ISPs and therefore the resulting POCs are not
> >> validated prior to being created in the ARIN Whois database. This
> >> creates unknowing POCs that have no idea what Whois is or even who ARIN
> >> is at the time they receive the annual POC validation email. It can also
> >> create multiple POCs per email address causing that same person to
> >> receive a multitude of POC Validation emails each year.
> >>
> >> This policy proposal seeks to prevent the situation where a POC is
> >> unwittingly and unintentionally inserted into Whois. Doing so will
> >> reduce the significant amount of time that ARIN staff spend fielding
> >> phone calls from POCs who have no idea they are in Whois.
> >>
> >> The proposal will improve the overall POC validation situation, by
> >> ensuring that all reallocation or detailed reassignment requests are
> >> related to a pre-existing receiving organization with at least one valid
> >> POC object, and by requesting that any other existing invalid POC
> >> objects are validated.
> >>
> >> Policy statement:
> >>
> >> Insert one new section into NRPM 3:
> >>
> >> 3.7 POC Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or Reallocation
> >>
> >> When a request for reallocation or detailed reassignment is made to
> >> ARIN, the receiving organization must already be in the ARIN database
> >> and associated with at least one validated POC object. If there are no
> >> validated POC objects associated with the receiving organization, ARIN
> >> shall reject the request.
> >>
> >> In addition to notifying the requester, ARIN will also notify, via
> >> email, all POCs associated with the receiving organization, whether the
> >> request was successful or not, and will request validation of any
> >> invalid POC objects associated with the receiving organization.
> >>
> >> Note: Simple reassignments are made without any linkage to an
> >> organization or POC objects in the ARIN database.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> ARIN-PPML
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> >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:
> >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml
> >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > ===============================================
> > David Farmer Email:farmer at umn.edu
> > Networking & Telecommunication Services
> > Office of Information Technology
> > University of Minnesota
> > 2218 University Ave SE
> > <https://maps.google.com/?q=2218+University+Ave+SE&entry=gmail&source=g>
> > Phone: 612-626-0815
> > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952
> > ===============================================
> > _______________________________________________
> > ARIN-PPML
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> >
> >
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