[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-4: Allow Inter-regional IPv6 Resource Transfers

[Owen DeLong]

> On Apr 10, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Bill Murdoch <bill at clearskyconnections.ca> wrote:
> 
> Working with remote and rural community's...
> 
> "customers have autonomy in selection of their service providers" .
> 
> For a major urban center autonomy in selection is an option. For the realities of communities just a couple hundred kilometres away from urban centres, choices (if any) become fewer. For remote communities,  typically only the one option.  
> 

Not necessarily… San Jose, CA is a major urban center. Autonomy in selection isn’t really an option for most of San Jose.

Owen

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> Sent: April 10, 2019 12:53
> To: jcurran at arin.net <mailto:jcurran at arin.net>
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net <mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-4: Allow Inter-regional IPv6 Resource Transfers
> 
> (off topic)
> > customers have autonomy in selection of their service providers
> 
> ha ha haah=ahaaahahahahah oh wow.  *MAYBE* in the commercial space. I surveyed all of my friends and family at one point and got over 800+ replies all across the US, and only 4-- FOUR == a small fraction of a percent!! -- had a choice of providers for at least 10+Mb/sec internet service.
> 
> Maybe Canada has it better, but I haven't heard that the Caribbean has significant choice either. Mexico has the same non-overlap in the market as the US.
> 
> On topic for ARIN but not for African ISPs: I don't think that ARIN policy should revolve around Republican beliefs that the market always provides competition. History shows that the market will choose not to compete whenever possible, and will even strike agreements not to compete. Thus ARIN has a responsibility IMHO to ensure that customers receive baseline services -- to whatever extent it is possible within ARIN's charter.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 6:44 AM John Curran <jcurran at arin.net <mailto:jcurran at arin.net>> wrote:
> On 9 Apr 2019, at 9:33 AM, Job Snijders <job at ntt.net <mailto:job at ntt.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'd like to draw the community's attention to the following joint
>> announcement from two of Africa's largest IP transit providers. 
>> ...
>> It should be incontestable now that ARIN resource holders are at a
>> disadvantage when it comes to RPKI services.
> 
> Job - 
> 
> Indeed.  It’s similarly incontestable that customers of those service providers are at a disadvantage to customers of other service provider in Africa that do provide complete routing validation including for ARIN-region resource holders.   One of the benefits of our loosely coordinated Internet is that service providers have autonomy in how they run their network, and customers have autonomy in selection of their service providers. 
> 
> /John
> 
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
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