[arin-ppml] IPv6 Transfers (was :Draft Policy ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

[Brian Jones]

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 4:13 PM Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com> wrote:

> And I’d point to the evidence of a transfer market specifically for 16-bit
> ASNs as good evidence of this.
>
> That said, I’d like to understand better the relative imbalance of supply
> and demand for these resources in the various RIR regions before I form a
> conclusion as to whether that imbalance justifies a policy change to
> resolve.
>
>
+1 Chris’s sentiments about better understanding the imbalances of supply
and demand for these resources in the various RIR regions before discussing
policy changes.

—
Brian



> -C
>
> > On Feb 6, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Job Snijders <job at instituut.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 10:27:55AM -0800, Chris Woodfield wrote:
> >> RFC8092 was published roughly a year ago. I can’t imagine that we’ll
> >> see universal support for it anytime soon, and there’s plenty of gear
> >> out there on the internet today that won’t be getting a software
> >> update to support it.
> >
> > It'll be end of 2018 for general available software on the majority of
> > platforms - and for a company like NTT, a deployment of configurations
> > that use large community are likely to be in 2019 or maybe even 2020.
> > I don't intend this statement as a roadmap announcement, but rather to
> > illustrate the timescale.
> >
> > I'm tracking large community support here:
> http://largebgpcommunities.net/implementations/
> >
> >> I have encountered exactly this scenario, albeit on a private network,
> >> but I can’t imagine this not being a real-world issue for multiple
> >> operators with public 32-bit ASNs.
> >
> > yes, there are real-world issues for 32-bit ASN users today related to
> > communities. If I'd have to do a greenfield deployment of a new transit
> > network today, using a 16-bit ASN would be a blocking requirement due to
> > BGP communities. I imagine that for a number of years to come 16-bit
> > ASNs will be more desirable than 32-bit ASNs.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Job
> >
>
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