[arin-ppml] Requesting moderator intervention
Ron Grant
rgrant at skywaywest.com
Fri Apr 20 13:42:25 EDT 2018
Alberta, I mostly agree but the original problem was, as Marilson
correctly identified, that someone who is subscribed to the list has a
bot residing on their computer that harvests any email addresses that
the user sees, and sends mildly offensive spam to them. They are NOT,
however, doing it VIA the list, but directly.
This wasn't caused by his forwarding Spam, this is caused by the list
putting the original sender of ALL messages in the "From" field, and the
spammers employing new tactics, namely in responding to emails as if
their spam was part of the discussion.
My evidence of this is that I am the original poster of this thread, I
sent it ONLY to the list, WITHOUT replying to any message, and I
immediately started receiving the Spam that Marilson was complaining
about. <sigh> Fortunately I'm on good terms with the mail administrator
of our company (it's me!) and can block it.
You probably are already aware of this, because you are probably now
receiving Spam directly to your inbox. Say hello to Samantha and Karla
for me! :-)
On 2018-04-20 10:29 AM, hostmaster at uneedus.com wrote:
> I am against banning attachments, as they can often be useful during
> discussions. While google drive and other services can be used by
> many, some of us here on this list including myself are barred by
> network policies of using or connecting to such services, as they can
> be used to leak confidential data. Therefore, this would leave me out
> of any discussions involving attachments, as I likely would be blocked
> from downloading them.
>
> The true problem here was a member of the list forwarding one of their
> spams to the list, which included the original email address. This is
> the issue that we need to be more careful with. If someone continues
> to have an issue with forwarding spam, consider removing that person
> from the list, but please do not forbid attachments. For safety, I
> often remove everything from the To and CC except for the list
> address, so I know the message will not travel beyond the list.
>
> I have been here for a bit over a year, and this is the first spam
> attack that I have seen on the iist. I can always hope it will be the
> last.
>
> I read email in text based pine, and would have to specifically
> download the images to ever be subjected to them. However, based on
> the body, they look like the same type of subscription spam that
> Craigslist used to have before they shut down their personals
> section. The sender uses auto replies and different email addresses
> for the reply to address in an attempt to fake a 2 way conversation
> with a victim, trying to get them to sign up for a verification site
> of which the spammer has an affiliate relationship.
>
> This has not happened much since I have been here, and I think as
> professionals that if we can be careful, it will not remain an issue.
>
> Albert Erdmann
> Network Administrator
> Paradise On Line Inc.
>
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2018, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
>> +1 no attachments
>>
>> If you need to share an image please link to one of the many free image
>> hosting services. Some other binary file can be hosted with another
>> service (Google Drive, MS Drive, Dropbox, Box, etc).
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Brian Jones <bjones at vt.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> I would have to agree with others, most email lists I am a part of,
>>> especially of this type, do not allow attachments these days.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Chris James <chris at datacate.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>> This list should NOT permit attachments.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:34 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 4:34 PM, Ron Grant <rgrant at skywaywest.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Please moderate the list. I don't want to unsub.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Slow down the train.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Marilson,the correct answer is: "I'm sorry. It won't happen
>>>>> again."
>>>>> I get that you don't like spam. I don't like spam either.
>>>>> Forwarding a
>>>>> spam with potentially pornographic content to this mailing list was a
>>>>> real bonehead move. If you can't accept that it was an error, perhaps
>>>>> you should be removed from this list.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Is there any compelling reason why this mailing list should permit
>>>>> attachments in the first place? Can we not express our thoughts with
>>>>> words?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Bill Herrin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> William Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com bill at herrin.us
>>>>> Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> PPML
>>>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to
>>>>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML at arin.net).
>>>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:
>>>>> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml
>>>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This e-mail message may contain confidential or legally privileged
>>>> information and is intended only for the use of the intended
>>>> recipient(s).
>>>> Any unauthorized disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying
>>>> or the
>>>> taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is
>>>> prohibited.
>>>> E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as
>>>> they
>>>> can be intercepted, amended, or contain viruses. Anyone who
>>>> communicates
>>>> with us by e-mail is deemed to have accepted these risks. This
>>>> company is
>>>> not responsible for errors or omissions in this message and denies any
>>>> responsibility for any damage arising from the use of e-mail. Any
>>>> opinion
>>>> and other statement contained in this message and any attachment
>>>> are solely
>>>> those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the
>>>> company.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> PPML
>>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to
>>>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML at arin.net).
>>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:
>>>> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml
>>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PPML
>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to
>>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML at arin.net).
>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:
>>> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml
>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.
>>>
>>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> PPML
> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to
> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML at arin.net).
> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:
> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml
> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.
--
Ron Grant Managed DSL/Cable/Wireless/Fibre
Skyway West Business Internet Internet and Private Networking
rgrant at skywaywest.com Bonding and Fail Over Solutions
cell: 604-737-2113 Virtual Data Centre and Private Clouds
direct: 604-484-5263 http://www.skywaywest.com
Sales, Support and Billing http://www.skywaywest.com/contact-us.htm
ca.linkedin.com/in/obiron
More information about the ARIN-PPML
mailing list