[arin-ppml] Requesting moderator intervention

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Fri Apr 20 13:29:28 EDT 2018


I am against banning attachments, as they can often be useful during 
discussions.  While google drive and other services can be used by many, 
some of us here on this list including myself are barred by network 
policies of using or connecting to such services, as they can be used to 
leak confidential data.  Therefore, this would leave me out of any 
discussions involving attachments, as I likely would be blocked from 
downloading them.

The true problem here was a member of the list forwarding one of their 
spams to the list, which included the original email address.  This is the 
issue that we need to be more careful with.  If someone continues to have 
an issue with forwarding spam, consider removing that person from the 
list, but please do not forbid attachments.  For safety, I often remove 
everything from the To and CC except for the list address, so I know the 
message will not travel beyond the list.

I have been here for a bit over a year, and this is the first spam attack 
that I have seen on the iist.  I can always hope it will be the last.

I read email in text based pine, and would have to specifically download 
the images to ever be subjected to them.  However, based on the body, they 
look like the same type of subscription spam that Craigslist used to have 
before they shut down their personals section.  The sender uses auto 
replies and different email addresses for the reply to address in an 
attempt to fake a 2 way conversation with a victim, trying to get them to 
sign up for a verification site of which the spammer has an affiliate 
relationship.

This has not happened much since I have been here, and I think as 
professionals that if we can be careful, it will not remain an issue.

Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.

On Fri, 20 Apr 2018, Josh Luthman wrote:

> +1 no attachments
>
> If you need to share an image please link to one of the many free image
> hosting services.  Some other binary file can be hosted with another
> service (Google Drive, MS Drive, Dropbox, Box, etc).
>
>
> Josh Luthman
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> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Brian Jones <bjones at vt.edu> wrote:
>
>> I would have to agree with others, most email lists I am a part of,
>> especially of this type, do not allow attachments these days.
>>
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Chris James <chris at datacate.net> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>> This list should NOT permit attachments.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:34 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 4:34 PM, Ron Grant <rgrant at skywaywest.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Please moderate the list. I don't want to unsub.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Slow down the train.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Marilson,the correct answer is: "I'm sorry. It won't happen again."
>>>> I get that you don't like spam. I don't like spam either. Forwarding a
>>>> spam with potentially pornographic content to this mailing list was a
>>>> real bonehead move. If you can't accept that it was an error, perhaps
>>>> you should be removed from this list.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Is there any compelling reason why this mailing list should permit
>>>> attachments in the first place? Can we not express our thoughts with
>>>> words?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bill Herrin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
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