[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-2: Removal of Community Networks

[Marita Moll]

Might be breaking new ground here re: definitions. I will check around. 
It will take a few days.

Marita

17 10:35 PM, Jason Schiller wrote:
> Marita,
>
> I take to message to mean having ARIN policy for community networks
> is helpful, and the policy is not used by community networks, because
> the 100% volunteer requirement disqualifies many who would benefit
> which is why the policy has gone unused.
>
> The next step is coming up with a definition that will support community
> networks, but not allow other organizations to abuse the definition as a
> loophole.
>
> The conversation needs to shift to how do we define "community networks"
> in a useful way.
>
> Propose a definition for community networks.
>
> Can you borrow from other definitions of community networks
> that you come across in your sphere, such as  say the tax codes,
> or access to some other privilege that community networks may
> be granted?
>
> I suspect the ARIN community would be happy dropping the volunteer
> requirement if there was some other way to separate out things
> that are community networks.
>
> __Jason
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:57 PM, Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net 
> <mailto:mmoll at ca.inter.net>> wrote:
>
>     Hello all. As part of NARALO, I attended the ARIN mtg in New
>     Orleans and became aware of the policy re: community networks. I
>     don't have all the details others can contribute. But I have been
>     involved on the policy side with community networks in Canada for
>     20 years, so can provide a small slice of context from here.
>
>     I totally agree that community networks see a lot of value in
>     being recognized in ARIN policy. The few are doing well, others
>     struggle to exist.  But they have been and in some areas are still
>     an important part of the Internet access landscape. It is
>     difficult, as it is, to even locate these scattered entities.
>     Deleting language the recognizes their existence would be a shame.
>
>     The 100% volunteer driven requirement is not realistic. I don't
>     know what it should be. Even 70% volunteer driven might not bring
>     in much more activity in the short term but it would be a
>     recognition that the non-profit/cooperative model is a viable
>     option for communities trying to manage their own access issues.
>
>     Marita Moll
>
>     Telecommunities Canada (loose coalition of community networks in
>     Canada)
>
>
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