[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6

Roberts, Orin oroberts at bell.ca
Wed Jul 26 09:50:20 EDT 2017


Ref: Geolocation and SWIPs

I have seen SWIPs with GPS coordinates similar to the bus example; wifi/camera in remote park.

“A bus would be SWIPd to the bus yard or administrative offices of the bus company. The SWIP data is not required to be the service address, it is required to be an address for administrative and/or technical contact regarding the network and/or legal process service regarding same”.

Is this in ARIN’s policy? “The SWIP data is not required to be the service address”




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On 7/24/2017 1:31 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Jul 20, 2017, at 14:28 , hostmaster at uneedus.com<mailto:hostmaster at uneedus.com> wrote:

My transit bus example is another example of SWIP difficulty.  Very hard to provide a street address to SWIP a bus when it is mobile 16 hours a day.
Not at all. A bus would be SWIPd to the bus yard or administrative offices of the bus company. The SWIP data is not required to be the service address, it is required to be an address for administrative and/or technical contact regarding the network and/or legal process service regarding same.

[rest trimmed because we are in agreement on that part]

Owen
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017, Chris James wrote:
@Paul - The API key is to email it.

@Owen - Very difficult when you have dynamic ranges, and vps/container
platforms spanning tens of thousands of instances across these dynamic
ranges.


On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Paul McNary <pmcnary at cameron.net<mailto:pmcnary at cameron.net>> wrote:
Owen

The reassignment policy page says IPv6 has to be done vi API.
Is that something else that is incorrect on the web site?

Paul


On 7/20/2017 3:16 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
How can it be overly difficult to fill out an email template with your
customers’
Name, Address, Phone Number?

Really?

Owen

On Jul 19, 2017, at 23:48 , Pallieter Koopmans <Pallieter at pallieter.org<mailto:Pallieter at pallieter.org>>
wrote:

Hello,

ARIN could quantify and require rules for when to SWIP, but in the
end, there are going to be exceptions needed if the rules are to be
strictly followed. Many will not separately SWIP a separately routed
sub-block if it is too difficult or pointless to gather and share that
data back upstream to ARIN.

Thus a more fuzzy rule to require a best-effort and to add a
rule-based reason (preferably both a carrot and a stick) for block
owners to do their best to provide (only) useful data. In order to do
that, one needs to look back at why that data is needed. For a block
owner to assign the SWIP on a sub-block, he basically delegates tech
and abuse contact requests down to those that are probably more likely
to be able to actually act on the tech/abuse requests (and thus reduce
request-handling workload higher up and overall). But for that to
work, those tech/abuse contact requests need to be actually handled,
otherwise, it is better to leave them with the block owner.

In the end, the contact details should be as close to the "person"
that is actually capable to both handle (think: volume/languages/etc)
and act (think: authority) on the tech/abuse requests.

eBrain
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Pallieter Koopmans
Managing Director

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