[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6

Paul McNary pmcnary at cameron.net
Mon Jul 24 15:08:11 EDT 2017


I agree with that!

Paul


On 7/24/2017 2:00 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> The current proposal language says:
>
> 	/47 or shorter are SWIP’d in all cases.
> 	/48 or longer are SWIP’d if they are independently announced.
>
> Owen
>
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:53 , Paul McNary <pmcnary at cameron.net> wrote:
>>
>> What does the new language say?
>> I then am totally confused as I am with the rest of the NPRM!
>>
>> So many contradictions using Missouri English.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On 7/24/2017 1:22 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> That’s not what the new language actually says.
>>>
>>> Owen
>>>
>>>> On Jul 20, 2017, at 13:26 , Paul McNary <pmcnary at cameron.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>> /48 is the SWIP boundary. /48 is SWIP'ed.
>>>> /49 is not.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/20/2017 3:07 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>>>> My recommendation was “shorter than /48” which would essentially mean the same thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Owen
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2017, at 15:46 , hostmaster at uneedus.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The language of "b)" actually makes more sense with a /47:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each static IPv6 assignment containing a /47 or more addresses, or subdelegation of any size that will be individually announced, shall be registered in the WHOIS directory via SWIP or a distributed service which meets the standards set forth in section 3.2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The major difference is that this language eliminates the SWIP requirement for /48 blocks that are not announced, but all larger blocks require SWIP, and blocks smaller than /48 are also exempt and of course also non-routeable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is best for those that think SWIP should be limited to only blocks that are individually announced.  I could go either way on this issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Albert Erdmann
>>>>>> Network Administrator
>>>>>> Paradise On Line Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017, Leif Sawyer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shepherd of the draft policy chiming in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the lively discussion, everybody.   There's certainly a lot to think about here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to folk, the current policy under question is located here:
>>>>>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#six551
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, to help clarify some confusion, per  6.5.5.3.1  (https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#six5531)
>>>>>>> residential customers "holding/64 and larger blocks"   may use censored data,  i.e.  "Private Customer/Residence"
>>>>>>> in lieu of actual names and street addresses.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With that said,  I have a couple of questions to ask, based on potential rewrites that are brewing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First:    Assuming a preference for /56  (based on PPML feedback)  for the moment,   which is the more
>>>>>>> preferential rewrite of the opening sentence of 6.5.5.1?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a)      Each static IPv6 assignment containing a /55 or more addresses shall be registered in the WHOIS directory via SWIP or a distributed service which meets the standards set forth in section 3.2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> b)      Each static IPv6 assignment containing a /55 or more addresses, or subdelegation of any size that will be individually announced, shall be registered in the WHOIS directory via SWIP or a distributed service which meets the standards set forth in section 3.2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Second:   Given your specific choice of A or B,  are you preferentially inclined to choose the provided bit-boundary, or "/48"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Third:  If none of these options are palatable, do you have a proposed approach?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leif Sawyer
>>>>>>> Advisory Council
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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