[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks

[Richard J. Letts]

Where did the 9% come from? Should that not be 24%?

Either way, if we were talking about houses then many of us realize that if the number of bidders on property who had the cash (but not the need) were 10 or 25% larger, then you might expect the value of the property to be higher. The same is true with any inelastic good. I have no idea what the price elasticity of IP address space is, but I’m going to suggest that it’s very inelastic given the lack of alternatives (IPv6 is an alternative, but it has other costs associated with it)

I have not seen an argument that this policy will not increase the price of IPv4 addresses for people who have needs, and I can’t see that is a good thing.

Richard Letts


From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of John Curran
Sent: 30 September 2015 12:29 PM
To: Dani Roisman <droisman at softlayer.com>
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks

On Sep 30, 2015, at 1:15 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net<mailto:jcurran at arin.net>> wrote:

Unfortunately, we do not have any readily-available way to correlate the
not-completed tickets with intended block size.  We do have overall
transfer ticket closure statistics available.

8.3 / 8.2 Ticket statistics to date -

153  8.3 tickets closed
106  completed (69%)
  37  withdrawn (24%)
    4  duplicate (3%)
    3  abandoned (2%)
    3  closed for another reason (2%)

   82 8.2 tickets closed
   68 completed (83%)
   12 withdrawn (15%)
     1 duplicate (1%)
     1 other (1%)

If one presumes that demonstration of need is a more significant concern
for 8.3 transfers (generalization, but plausible) _and_ that there was no
other significant factor (lots of hand-waving at this point), then there is a
9% withdrawal rate (and potentially 2% abandoned rate)  that one might
bravely attribute to the consequences of needs-assessment.

/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

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