[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-5: Out of region use - revised

Jon Lewis jlewis at lewis.org
Fri Sep 11 00:03:26 EDT 2015


On Thu, 10 Sep 2015, Matthew Kaufman wrote:

> On 9/10/2015 2:40 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>> 
>> I use my addresses globally and will continue to do so as needed.  I've 
>> never needed a policy to tell me I can or can't.
>
> +1
>
> As I've said before, isn't the whole point of the Internet that geography can 
> become largely irrelevant. Like I can take a disaster hit in California and 
> spin up the standby VMs that are in London, adjust a little BGP, and keep 
> rolling... why would where I happen to be using a particular address today be 
> ARIN's business at all?

Like it or not, current "internal policy" is that your resources used out 
of region (like to provide IPs for that London POP so it can be reachable 
when its not using your California IPs) don't count as "utilized", and if 
you're a US based corp wanting to open a DR POP in London and need IPs 
for it, ARIN won't allocate them to you [to be used out of region]. 
Worse, if you weren't aware of this policy at the time, and have used a 
bunch of ARIN space unicast out of region, you may have difficulties 
getting approved when applying for more space to be used in-region.

Regardless of how and where Martin uses his ARIN IPs, or what you think is 
or isn't ARIN's business, the current "policy" resulting from a very 
narrow interpretation of vagueness in the NRPM makes it a PITA for ARIN 
members to operate global networks.

I fear it'll be irrelevant before it can be implemented, but I'm in favor 
of fixing policy, here and anywhere else needed, to remove the need for 
ARIN to "interpret" actual policy in ways that screw the members.

So, just in case I wasn't clear, I'm in favor of 2015-5.

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