[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-2: Modify 8.4 (Inter-RIR Transfers to Specified Recipients)

[Owen DeLong]

The large multinational actor has the option of buying space in the ARIN market and moving it ARIN->APNIC->CNNIC.

The small operator in China has trouble competing with the large multinational actor because the small actor has no such option for obtaining IPv4 addresses.

(As one example)

Owen

> On May 27, 2015, at 1:14 AM, David Huberman <David.Huberman at microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> Bill, 
> 
> I don't understand your position.
> 
> There's no free pool. All space comes from the market.
> 
> A small actor pays money to get her necessary space from the market.
> A large actor pays money to get her necessary space from the market.
> 
> How does the large actor moving space they hold from ARIN to CNNIC disadvantage the small actor?
> 
> David
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: William Herrin [mailto:bill at herrin.us]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:55 PM
>> To: David Huberman
>> Cc: ARIN PPML (ppml at arin.net)
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-2: Modify 8.4 (Inter-RIR
>> Transfers to Specified Recipients)
>> 
>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:38 PM, David Huberman
>> <David.Huberman at microsoft.com> wrote:
>>> A good actor has no choice but to get around Statement 1 by
>>> transferring the block to a different OrgID in ARIN via NRPM 8.2, then
>>> doing an inter-RIR transfer to APNIC (and then to CNNIC).  BGP can now
>> occur.
>> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> That's a "good" actor? This sort of corrupt behavior that benefits multi-
>> national organizations at the expense of local operators is why I argued
>> against inter-RIR transfers in the first place. I doubt I'll win this argument
>> either, but at least someone will have gone on record calling a spade a spade.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bill Herrin
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> William Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com  bill at herrin.us Owner,
>> Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
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