[arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML 2015-2

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Mon Jun 1 18:33:03 EDT 2015


On Jun 1, 2015, at 6:10 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:52 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>> On Jun 1, 2015, at 5:34 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>>> Discuss. With. ARIN. Counsel. Because you're plain wrong.
>> 
>>  This has already been done, with several different attorneys over the
>>  course of many years.
> 
> Then you haven't asked the right questions. Start with the tortious
> interference example I drew out for you and see what counsel has to
> say. If he tells you someone whose route is highjacked has no legal
> recourse against the highjacker in a multi-billion dollar industry
> that depends on routing... the law doesn't leave gaping voids like
> that John. It just doesn't. And you don't have the counter-example in
> your grasp.

Bill - 
 
   It’s quite possible that there are options for legal recourse against a
   party which routes an address block in a manner not authorized by
   the block holder, but that would not be the result of any right to the 
   routing table that the address holder has, but instead the result of 
   a violation of an actual statute or violation of contractual provisions 
   between service providers and their peers and/or customers. 

   (None of which equates to "a lawful right to exclude anyone else 
   from using his ARIN-registered IP address on the public Internet.”)

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN




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