[arin-ppml] 2014-1 Out of Region Use

Jon Lewis jlewis at lewis.org
Wed Feb 25 17:31:41 EST 2015

On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Milton L Mueller wrote:

> Jon
> Yes, it's clear that you support the intent of 2014-1, which is to 
> reconcile actual staff practice with an approved policy. But it also 
> sounds like you think our threshold requirement can be gamed?  The 
> "speaking Romanian" issue (or more likely, speaking Chinese) has been 
> the subject of fierce debates. Do you have specific suggestions for how 
> we could fix this?

I haven't thought of anything yet that I don't think would be trivial to 
game.  Operating in region could be accomplished with as little as one 
cloud VM.  "Doing business in" could be done with a Delaware shell company 
that "exists in region", but only on paper.

This may be too arbitrary, but what if to qualify to be permitted to 
use/request resources from ARIN for out of region use, in addition to 
what's already in 2014-1, you had to be an ARIN member for some minimum 
amount of time (i.e. already have resources managed by ARIN)?  1 year?
The idea would be to make it harder for a completely "out of region" 
entity to come to ARIN under this new policy and game the system and 
use ARIN as an alternative to their "local" RIR.

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