[arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

Paul pmcnary at cameron.net
Tue Aug 11 22:36:57 EDT 2015


Hello

We are getting ready to lose a /22 and /23 and 2 /24's when we switch 
from microwave data center providers
to fiber for our ISP that the data centers have been providing for us 
since the dial-up days .
/22 and /23 are no longer available. Will we have to pay the $100 annual 
fee on each /24 block allocated
even though nothing larger is available? Can we get an IPv6 allocation 
large enough when we file for AS number
for a several month cross over from microwave to fiber?

Thank you
Paul McNary
Internet Associates







On 8/11/2015 9:29 PM, josh at rowenetworks.com wrote:
> Well here's my scenario. My ISP is in the process of acquiring another 
> ISP, I wrote into arin for advice of how to go about requesting 
> additional ip space as the acquisition will take more IP addresses 
> then what we have left out of our current /21 allotment.
>
> I was advised to apply asap however with the depletion 
> procedures/protocols it didn't seem likely to quickly be able to get 
> enough blocks from the free pool.
>
> If an existing service provider such as myself would be able to get a 
> free ipv6 allocation I would agree it would help transition to ipv6 
> faster as I need more IPs for my customers, infrastructure, etc.
>
> I'd at least be more willing to try to make it work for my customer ip 
> space since there would be little or no cost involved, now the problem 
> that remains is the equipment compatibility and third party support of 
> ipv6.
>
> Is it possible to still get a block to use for my ISP for $100/yr?
>
> Best Regards,
> Josh Rowe
>
>
> On August 11, 2015 10:11:40 PM EDT, Randy Carpenter 
> <rcarpen at network1.net> wrote:
>
>     ----- On Aug 11, 2015, at 8:43 PM, Seth Mattinen sethm at rollernet.us wrote:
>
>         On 8/11/15 14:43, Alfie Cleveland wrote:
>
>             Hello, I’m requesting comment in regards to automatically
>             make organisations eligible for IPv6 if they hold
>             justified IPv4 space. This similar to Section 9.3.1. of
>             the [APNIC-127] APNIC Internet Number Resource Policies. I
>             feel that if organisations were able to receive a /48 for
>             each /24 they hold, then it would help expedite the
>             rollout of IPv6. Organisations currently have two choices
>             - continue to use IPv4, or spend valuable time on applying
>             for IPv6 space. IPv6 space is clearly in abundance - and
>             this could potentially help slo w the exhaustion of IPv4.
>
>         I got my /32 IPv6 allocation in late 2009 and end user /48 in
>         2007 and I don't remember having to do much to qualify for
>         them other than ask. Has this changed? 
>
>
>     No. If you have IPv4 space already, it is incredibly easy to get IPv6. Getting the default /48 as an end-user is about as automatic as it could be, and qualifying for more is not much more effort if you have multiple sites.
>
>     The only issue is that for end-users, you now have to pay an additional $100 per year for the IPv6 assignment.
>
>     -Randy
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