[arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2014-12: Anti-hijack Policy

Martin Hannigan hannigan at gmail.com
Wed May 21 18:30:48 EDT 2014


The problem this proposal intended to fix was with the staff, not the
researchers.

This proposal is a no op. Who was held accountable? Who will be held
accountable if it happens again?

I suggest the intent of the policy is good enough.




On Wednesday, May 21, 2014, Leif Sawyer <lsawyer at gci.com> wrote:

> I just can't think of a time when
>    "experimental documentation [should] clearly describe and justify"
> "should" ever be  "doesn't"
>
>
> hence my suggestion to use "must".
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Farmer [mailto:farmer at umn.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:04 PM
> To: Leif Sawyer; Owen DeLong
> Cc: David Farmer; arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2014-12:
> Anti-hijack Policy
>
> I think "should" is sufficiently strong, and gives ARIN Staff a little
> wiggle room to do what makes sense.  There really have never been that many
> experimental allocations.
>
> We had a big whoopsie with all 5 RIR's authorizing /12 anchor routes.
> ARIN probably won't do that again anyway, but it's still worth a small fix
> in policy, just to be clear about it.  The sentence is question is a little
> rough, so while we are at it a little editorial clean up is probably in
> order, but please let's not over do it.
>
> I really would like to hear from a few more people about if this editorial
> change is a good idea or not, even a few +/-1s would be helpful.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 5/21/14, 13:52 , Leif Sawyer wrote:
> > s/should/must
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net]
> > On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:34 AM
> > To: David Farmer
> > Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2014-12:
> > Anti-hijack Policy
> >
> >>
> >> In looking at the sentence in question; I think the "have" in the
> >> sentence is extraneous, and can deleted.  Then changing "this" to "a
> >> larger allocation" and the tense changes you suggest, results in;
> >>
> >>    If an organization requires more resource than stipulated by the
> >>    minimum allocation sizes in force at the time of their request,
> >>    their experimental documentation should clearly describe and
> >>    justify why a larger allocation is required.
> >>
> >
> > s/resource/resources/
> > s/minimum allocation sizes/applicable minimum allocation size/
> > s/experimental documentation/request/
> >
> > result:
> >
> > If an organization requires more resources than stipulated by the
> applicable minimum allocation in force at the time of their request, their
> request should clearly describe and justify why a larger allocation is
> required.
> >
> > I think this not only parses better, but is more accurate.
> >
> > The first change resolves a grammar error.
> > The second change avoids ambiguity between whether all requests are
> subject to all minimums in this case vs. the intended meaning that the
> minimum applicable elsewhere in policy.
> > The third change is because their documentation should be documentation
> of an experiment, not experimental documentation and what we really care
> about is the information provided in their ARIN request anyway.
> >
> > I think since this is a minor change which does not alter the meaning of
> the policy and does improve readability and clarity, that we should
> probably go ahead and incorporate it as you proposed prior to last call.
> >
> > Owen
> >
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