[arin-ppml] ARIN Draft Policy 2014-2 Improving 8.4 Anti-Flip Language

Bill Darte billdarte at gmail.com
Mon May 5 16:00:06 EDT 2014

Yes....a significant vote in favor or continuing to work on it...but I have
asked...now repeatedly for support for the language or suggested
improvements to the language..... nada.

I do not wish to abandon, I wish to create good policy that the community

I await the community's affirmation that this draft is worthy of continuing


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:32 PM, David Huberman <David.Huberman at microsoft.com
> wrote:

> From the ARIN 33 meeting notes:
> "At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw
> poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were
> provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.
> Straw poll for/against continuing work on the proposal:
> - Total attendees/remote participants: 103
> - In favor: 36
> - Against: 2 "
> The participating members of this community spoke widely in favor of
> working on this.  Abandoning this seems contrary to the explicit wishes of
> the community's participants
> David R Huberman
> Microsoft Corporation
> Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Bill Darte
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 12:15 PM
> To: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: [arin-ppml] ARIN Draft Policy 2014-2 Improving 8.4 Anti-Flip
> Language
> Should we abandon this Draft?
> After the Chicago Public Policy Meeting, based upon the community's
> suggestion that the AC continue to work on this Draft.  I sent an email to
> PPML asking for support or opposition to this Draft and received just 2
> responses....both in opposition.
> I reiterate that PPML message below and once again ask for your support or
> opposition. Failing to generate greater support for this Draft and given
> that the AC has approximately 20 proposals and drafts on its docket.....I
> plan to make a motion at the next AC monthly meeting recommending
> abandoning this Draft Policy for lack of community support......
> Now is your opportunity to convince the community that this a worthwhile
> effort....or not.
> Thanks,
> Bill Darte
> AC Shepherd for 2014-2
> Draft Policy Issue:
> Simply, the author wishes the Anti-Flip language currently used in the
> NRPM to be relaxed, allowing an Inter-RIR transfer within their own
> organization of previously existing addresses....though they may have
> received a new allocation or assignment within the last 12 months.
> Current draft language states that the organization may do such a
> transfer, but may not use the actual addresses which were received from
> ARIN (or through transfer) in the previous 12 months.  But they could
> therefore transfer other resources holdings.
> Request for feedback:
> In order to further this discussion and gain a consensus, I would like to
> once again ask the community to speak in favor or against this Draft Policy
> so that it may be presented and discussed at our next Public Policy
> Consultation at NANOG in June.
> 1. Yes or No.  Should the community relax existing policy which attempts
> to limit the transfer of ARIN resources out of region, in order to allow an
> organization flexibility to move address blocks to another portion of their
> own organization in another region, even though they might have received
> different addresses within ARIN in the last 12 months?
> (Note current policy would still restrict availability of new addresses to
> the organization for a period of 12 months after the transfer and is not
> being changed by this draft).
> 2.  If YES above, are there any other qualifications or limits that should
> be imposed on the resources transferred or the organization?
> (Note that a vote of NO to question #1 would essentially ask the Advisory
> Council to abandon this draft policy leaving existing policy in place.)
> Thanks to all who continue to work within the community to exercise their
> right and duty to craft appropriate policy guiding ARIN's important role in
> Internet number resource management.
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