[arin-ppml] Adding Enforcement mandate language

[David Huberman]

Unfortunately, Mr McTim, this won't work here :(  We have tremendously large service providers who don't have up-to-date SWIP records as a function of changes ARIN has made to software. The providers are experiencing an inability to get changes made internally to adjust to ARIN's changes. This is mostly due to the difficulties large (100,000+ employee) companies experience when trying to be flexible.

Concisely: such a rule enforced to the spirit and letter would take down reverse for tier 1 networks. We can't put ARIN in that position, as it's a lose-lose for everyone on the Internet.

It's a tough reality to swallow (engineer's response "it shouldn't be that hard!") but it's very real :(

David R Huberman
Microsoft Corporation
Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)

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From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> on behalf of McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 10:04:53 AM
To: Michael Peddemors
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Adding Enforcement mandate language

Hi,

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Michael Peddemors
<michael at linuxmagic.com> wrote:
> For the thread (subject changed) here is what you mean?


no, that's just preamble.


>
> From the Afrinic.net website..
>
> "9.5 Validity of an assignment Assignments remain valid as long as the
> original criteria on which the assignment was based are still in place and
> the assignment is registered in the AfriNIC whois database. An assignment is
> therefore invalid if it is not registered in the database and if the purpose
> for which it was registered has changed or no longer holds. "
>
> I think that for the ARIN policy, language like that will be hard to bring
> in, but we have to do something..


"This proposal limits LIRs and End-Users from obtaining reverse
delegation (rDNS) from AFRINIC unless the address space is assigned or
sub-allocated in the AfriNIC Database."

In other words, no reverse DNS unless SWIP/rwhois.

I assume you want to improve the accuracy of the registry database
while giving ARIN the ability to enforce registration requirements,
correct?

This is one potential way to give the RIR a stick in which to enforce
the registration of assignments in the database.





>
> There has to be the correct balances of freedom of use, with identifying
> needs requirements..
>
> Right now, someone can get a /16, and make the call out, and he can fill
> that in 48 hours.. but the problem is identifying who is really using that
> 'rented' IP space, and whether that /16 being rented out to others, is that
> justification for more IP Space?
>
> The case can be made that 'speculators' can rent out IP Space to fill it up,
> so he can get more before it runs out.
>
> I think the move to lower the /20 will help in getting IP(s) to real end
> users, instead of 'speculators'..
>
> But we also need to give ARIN teeth do something about companies who aren't
> operating in accordance with guidelines..
>
> But I doubt you will get consensus to give ARIN the power to revoke,

Don't they already have the ability to revoke under clearly defined conditions?



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Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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