[arin-ppml] Adding Enforcement mandate language

Michael Peddemors michael at linuxmagic.com
Fri May 2 11:39:53 EDT 2014

For the thread (subject changed) here is what you mean?

 From the Afrinic.net website..

"9.5 Validity of an assignment Assignments remain valid as long as the 
original criteria on which the assignment was based are still in place 
and the assignment is registered in the AfriNIC whois database. An 
assignment is therefore invalid if it is not registered in the database 
and if the purpose for which it was registered has changed or no longer 
holds. "

I think that for the ARIN policy, language like that will be hard to 
bring in, but we have to do something..

There has to be the correct balances of freedom of use, with identifying 
needs requirements..

Right now, someone can get a /16, and make the call out, and he can fill 
that in 48 hours.. but the problem is identifying who is really using 
that 'rented' IP space, and whether that /16 being rented out to others, 
is that justification for more IP Space?

The case can be made that 'speculators' can rent out IP Space to fill it 
up, so he can get more before it runs out.

I think the move to lower the /20 will help in getting IP(s) to real end 
users, instead of 'speculators'..

But we also need to give ARIN teeth do something about companies who 
aren't operating in accordance with guidelines..

But I doubt you will get consensus to give ARIN the power to revoke, 
unless there is really clearly defined conditions, and even then there 
will those concerned about the 'slippery slope'..

I think that for sure we need to prevent a company from getting more IP 
space, or allowing transfers if their whole existing space isn't 
compliant, but we do need more.

Maybe it is as simple as a pricing penalty?

IF they don't have accurate contact information on file, if they don't 
have functioning correct 'rwhois' or SWIP for 'rented' IP space, then it 
should cost more?

On 14-05-02 02:27 AM, McTim wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Michael Peddemors
> <michael at linuxmagic.com> wrote:
>> On 14-04-30 05:11 PM, David Conrad wrote:
> <snip>
>> I recognize, any empowerment of ARIN for enforcement is a divisive topic,
>> and has been for some time, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't look for a
>> solution.
> http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/700-no-reverse-unless-assigned
> Is one possible solution.
> I wrote it in less time than it took to read this entire thread, and
> meant it as a straw-man, but folks seemed to like it.

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