[arin-ppml] Potentially credible v4 number pricing data

Martin Hannigan hannigan at gmail.com
Tue Mar 4 08:56:03 EST 2014


What does private equity and M&A have to do with longer or shorter prefix value?

There's a market for all lengths/sizes. Clearly, the Hilco data
demonstrates that. The "value" is higher for smaller (and larger to
some extent) prefixes because of the overhead and abundance of
unpredictable risk dealing with ARIN.

Best,

-M<



On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:49 AM, Jeffrey Lyon
<jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net> wrote:
> Michel,
>
> I personally disagree that smaller assignments have market value. As
> the prefixes get shorter, the aftermarket appeal is likely much
> higher. (note: I do have some experience in this space in working with
> private equity on M&A proposals for our company).
>
> Thanks, Jeff
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Michel Py
> <michel at arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us> wrote:
>>> Martin Hannigan wrote :
>>> It would be more credible if the actual block was
>>> published, but this is interesting regardless.
>>> http://www.ipv4auctions.com/
>>
>> About 6 weeks ago, I came up with the following:
>>
>> +--------+-------+--------+-------+
>> ! Prefix !  #IPs ! Per IP !  Cost !
>> +--------+-------+--------+-------+
>> !    /16 ! 65536 !    $10 ! $655K !
>> !    /18 ! 16384 !    $12 ! $196K !
>> !    /20 !  4096 !    $15 !  $61K !
>> !    /22 !  1024 !    $22 !  $22K !
>> +--------+-------+--------+-------+
>>
>> I don't have any scientific pretentions about the validity of this data,
>> YMMV, blah blah. What is advertised is not what is sold, at this point
>> in time though I don't think that it matters much to the debate if an IP
>> is $7 per pop or $15 per pop.
>>
>> My files here: http://ipvii.com/
>>
>> Michel.
>>
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