[arin-ppml] Internet Fairness

[Steven Ryerse]

The fly in the ointment in your argument is that there are multiple .com domain registrars and an Org can go to a 2nd or 3rd one if they were to be denied by the 1st one.  ARIN however, is the monopoly for our Region so an Org does not have the ability to go to another Official IP resource registrar in our Region.  Therefore, as a monopoly, ARIN must award at least a minimum allocation to any Org or they will be shut out altogether – and of course that would be stifling the Internet and not advancing the Internet which is ARINs mission.  We need to fix this!

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From: McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 12:22 PM
To: Steven Ryerse
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Internet Fairness


Steven,

I agree it is a deeply flawed analogy.
However, I will answer the question with a yes.
It is OK for a Registry Operator to deny access to a name based on whatever Registration policy is in place.
I know this as I work for a Registry Operator and the basis of our TLD is that we do deny names to people who do not meet our Standards/Eligibility Requirement or AUP.  Registrars cannot sell a name to an entity that hasn't been approved by the Registry Operator.

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McTim
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Steven Ryerse <SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com<mailto:SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com>> wrote:
So I have to ask you the bottom line question:

Is it OK for an Organized community of existing Domain Name holders to deny a small Org the Minimum number of Domain Names from an Official Registrar?


Steven Ryerse
President
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From: McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com<mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 5:47 PM
To: Owen DeLong
Cc: Steven Ryerse; arin-ppml at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Internet Fairness

I have to agree with Owen, I just got my first v4 request from ARIN approved for a small org.
Wasn't hard, wasn't burdensome.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com<mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:
I'm sorry, but your argument is utterly specious.


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McTim
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