[arin-ppml] Out-of-region overreaction?

Scott Leibrand scottleibrand at gmail.com
Fri Oct 4 17:42:50 EDT 2013


Agreed.  IMO this is *not* was intended by current policy, *particularly*
IPv6 policy.  If you get a /32, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to
use it globally.

Thanks for bringing this up.  I think we're going to have a lively
discussion next week in Phoenix.  :-)

-Scott


On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Frank Bulk <frnkblk at iname.com> wrote:

> I was requesting some ISP IPv6 space and the kindly ARIN staff posted this
> in their response:
>
>         Please reply and verify that you will be using
>         the requested number resources within the ARIN region
>         and announcing all routing prefixes of the requested
>         space from within the ARIN region. In accordance with
>         section 2.2 of the NRPM, ARIN issues number resources
>         only for use within its region. ARIN is therefore only
>         able to provide for your in-region numbering needs.
>
> I'm familiar with the concern about out-of-region folk taking advantage of
> ARIN's current IPv4 supply, but I have a few concerns about the wording of
> the staff communication.
>
> a) It's been my understanding thus far that if I'm an ISP that provides
> service in multiple places around the world that I may divide my allocation
> into smaller prefixes and advertise those to area peers.  It seems ARIN
> staff would preclude me from doing any of that.  "All" is a pretty strong
> word, and if ARIN really believes it, a lot of violators could be found.
>
> b) It seems that Section 2.2 of the NRPM is being misapplied.
>         2.2. Regional Internet Registry (RIR)
>
>         Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) are established and
>         authorized by respective regional communities, and
>         recognized by the IANA to serve and represent large
>         geographical regions. The primary role of RIRs is to
>         manage and distribute public Internet address space
>         within their respective regions.
>
> While ARIN does issue numbers within its region, section 2.2 does not say
> "only for use".  If an "only" had be applied, I would suggest that it's
> "only manage and distribute".
>
> If I could be so bold, I'd suggest ARIN to use language something along
> these lines in their communications:
>
>         Please reply and verify that you will be using
>         the requested number resources primarily within the
>         ARIN region and announcing the majority of routing prefixes
>         of the requested space from within the ARIN region.
>         In accordance with section 2.2 of the NRPM, ARIN issues
>         number resources within its region.
>
> Frank
>
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