[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-5: LIR/ISP and End-user Definitions

[Jason Schiller]

I know people won't like this, but if you are going to pick one term
ISP/LIR, I'd recommend LIR.

LIR shows up in the other regions, and also global polices.

For clarity I think the best thing to do is use "ISP/LIR" as the single
term everywhere.

I think Chris Grundeman's simplification of ISP/LIR is fine, and his
clarification of end-user is good.

__Jason



On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 5:53 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
> [...]
> > Policy statement:
> >
> > Update NRPM 2.4 and 2.6 to read:
> >
> > 2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR) / Internet Service Provider (ISP) The
> > terms Internet Service Provider (ISP) and LIR are used interchangeably in
> > this document. A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is an IR that assigns
> address
> > space to the users of the network services that it provides. Therefore,
> LIRs
> > / ISPs are organizations that reassign addresses to end users and/or
> > reallocate addresses to other ISPs/LIRs.
>
> I think this is a bit redundant ('a LIR is an IR') and could be made
> more similar to the end-user definition thus:
>
> "2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR) / Internet Service Provider (ISP)
> The terms Internet Service Provider (ISP) and LIR are used
> interchangeably in this document. An ISP is a LIR that receives
> allocations of IP addresses to provide network services to its users.
> An LIR / ISP reassigns addresses to end users and/or reallocates
> addresses to other ISPs / LIRs."
>
> I'm also curious as to the community sentiment regarding using these
> two terms interchangeably. It seems that it may be more clear to go
> through the NRPM and make change to one or the other in all instances.
>
> Would using a single term provide better clarity can continuity?
>
> Which term would you prefer to use if that were the case (LIR or ISP)?
>
>
> > 2.6. End-user An end-user is an organization receiving assignments of IP
> > addresses exclusively for use in its operational networks, and does not
> > register any reassignments of that space.
>
> It's not the registration of the reassignment that makes an LIR/ISP
> different from an end-user, but the reassignment itself. I think the
> following text makes this more clear:
>
> "2.6. End-user An end-user is an organization that receives
> assignments of IP addresses exclusively for use in its operational
> networks. An end-user does not reassign or reallocate addresses to any
> other organization."
>
> Cheers,
> ~Chris
>
>
> > Timetable for implementation: Immediate
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