<div dir="ltr">I know people won't like this, but if you are going to pick one term ISP/LIR, I'd recommend LIR.<div><br></div><div style>LIR shows up in the other regions, and also global polices.</div><div style><br>
</div><div style>For clarity I think the best thing to do is use "ISP/LIR" as the single term everywhere.</div><div style><br></div><div style>I think Chris Grundeman's simplification of ISP/LIR is fine, and his clarification of end-user is good.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>__Jason </div><div style><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Chris Grundemann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cgrundemann@gmail.com" target="_blank">cgrundemann@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 5:53 PM, ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net">info@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
[...]<br>
<div class="im">> Policy statement:<br>
><br>
> Update NRPM 2.4 and 2.6 to read:<br>
><br>
> 2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR) / Internet Service Provider (ISP) The<br>
> terms Internet Service Provider (ISP) and LIR are used interchangeably in<br>
> this document. A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is an IR that assigns address<br>
> space to the users of the network services that it provides. Therefore, LIRs<br>
> / ISPs are organizations that reassign addresses to end users and/or<br>
> reallocate addresses to other ISPs/LIRs.<br>
<br>
</div>I think this is a bit redundant ('a LIR is an IR') and could be made<br>
more similar to the end-user definition thus:<br>
<div class="im"><br>
"2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR) / Internet Service Provider (ISP)<br>
The terms Internet Service Provider (ISP) and LIR are used<br>
</div>interchangeably in this document. An ISP is a LIR that receives<br>
allocations of IP addresses to provide network services to its users.<br>
An LIR / ISP reassigns addresses to end users and/or reallocates<br>
addresses to other ISPs / LIRs."<br>
<br>
I'm also curious as to the community sentiment regarding using these<br>
two terms interchangeably. It seems that it may be more clear to go<br>
through the NRPM and make change to one or the other in all instances.<br>
<br>
Would using a single term provide better clarity can continuity?<br>
<br>
Which term would you prefer to use if that were the case (LIR or ISP)?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
> 2.6. End-user An end-user is an organization receiving assignments of IP<br>
> addresses exclusively for use in its operational networks, and does not<br>
> register any reassignments of that space.<br>
<br>
</div>It's not the registration of the reassignment that makes an LIR/ISP<br>
different from an end-user, but the reassignment itself. I think the<br>
following text makes this more clear:<br>
<br>
"2.6. End-user An end-user is an organization that receives<br>
<div class="im">assignments of IP addresses exclusively for use in its operational<br>
</div>networks. An end-user does not reassign or reallocate addresses to any<br>
other organization."<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
~Chris<br>
<div class="im"><br>
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> Timetable for implementation: Immediate<br>
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