[arin-ppml] ARIN-2013-4: RIR Principles / Request for GeneralThoughts

[Mike Burns]

Hi Kevin,

The ARIN community has spoken and has explicitly endorsed the creation of a 
profit motivated transfer market through the manipulation of the transfer 
rules.

I'm not sure what you mean about benefit to "a market". Who loses when a 
market benefits?

Regards,
Mike Burns



inal Message----- 
From: Kevin Kargel
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 1:58 PM
To: William Herrin
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2013-4: RIR Principles / Request for 
GeneralThoughts

I do not agree that there is a "requirement" for a transfer market to be 
possible.  I strongly disagree that it is in any way part of the ARIN 
charter to manipulate rules to benefit a profit motivated transfer market.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: wherrin at gmail.com [mailto:wherrin at gmail.com] On Behalf Of William 
Herrin
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:12 PM
To: Kevin Kargel
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2013-4: RIR Principles / Request for General 
Thoughts

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Kevin Kargel <kkargel at polartel.com> wrote:
> <Kevin> Isn't the liquidity of a transfer market in itself outside of 
> ARIN's scope?

Hi Kevin,

That depends. With all this talk about conservation, operational need, 
documented need, and even the requirement for a transfer market to be 
possible, I would propose that we're beating around the bush of an unstated 
core principle: that ARIN is responsible for implementing an allocation 
process for number resources which is sustainable over the full life cycle 
of the protocols which consume each resource.

If you don't agree that's the case then there's a fair argument to be made 
that transfer market liquidity is a concern outside of ARIN's scope.

But if you agree with the sustainability principle then IPv4 transfer market 
liquidity is of primary concern.

Regards,
Bill Herrin

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